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    Nissan Qashqai vs SEAT Ateca vs Peugeot 3008

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    Nissan Qashqai vs SEAT Ateca vs Peugeot 3008


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    The Nissan Qashqai faces a fight to regain its crossover crown from the Peugeot 3008 and SEAT Ateca

    The Qashqai started something in the UK. There had been crossovers before it, but none of them captured the car-buying public’s attention like the Nissan did. This was a model that offered the practicality and appeal of a 4x4, but without the premium price tag, and drivers snapped up Qashqais in their droves.
    However, since the original car launched in 2006 the market has moved on at a ferocious pace. While the second-generation model brought more svelte styling and extra tech, it, too, was getting a little long in the tooth compared with the best cars in the class.
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    So Nissan has gone back to the drawing board with this facelift, injecting an extra hint of upmarket charm and more modern tech, combined with the same qualities that have made the Qashqai such a hit. Efficiency, practicality, affordability, refinement, driving dynamics, performance – a family crossover has to cover all these bases


    We put the Nissan up against our favourite mid-size SUV, the Peugeot 3008, and the talented SEAT Ateca. So are some mild cosmetic tweaks, a revised infotainment system, plusher interior trim and extra safety kit enough to take the Qashqai back to the top of this class?
    Nissan Qashqai


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    Model: Nissan Qashqai 1.5 dCi 110 N-Connecta
    Price: Price: £25,555
    Engine: Engine: 1.5-litre 4cyl turbodiesel, 108bhp
    0-60mph: 11.6 seconds
    Test economy: 43.6mpg/9.6mpl
    CO2: 99g/km
    Annual road tax: £140

    The success for Nissan, but with newer, more modern rivals eroding the car’s appeal, this new version aims to put it back to the top of the class. Here we test a £25,555 N-Connecta 1.5 dCi model.
    The Qashqai’s familiar hardware has been slightly retuned with different spring and damper rates to soften the chassis and improve comfort.
    While the difference is marginal, it is noticeable, because the Qashqai feels a bit more compliant over choppy roads, with the suspension absorbing and controlling wheel movements better than before. However, it doesn’t deliver the level of comfort on offer in the 3008, and it’s not as agile as the Ateca.

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    The car’s anti-roll bar is actually stiffer, to retain composure in corners, but the Nissan isn’t very involving to drive. There’s very little connection to what’s going on at the road surface through the steering, while it doesn’t feel as alert and responsive as its rivals, despite the Qashqai’s dynamic tweaks.
    These changes include a retuned Intelligent Ride Control system, which is said to reduce body motion over big bumps, plus Intelligent Trace Control, which applies the brakes to certain wheels in corners to help the car keep a tighter line.
    Nissan’s venerable 108bhp 1.5-litre four-cylinder turbodiesel engine is the least powerful of the three and also offers less torque than the Peugeot, at 260Nm. This deficit showed on test, where the Qashqai trailed the Ateca from 0-60mph by more than one second, taking 11.6 seconds.

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    The outcome was the same during our in-gear tests, where the Nissan was 1.3 seconds slower than the 3008 between 30 and 50mph in fourth, and lagged by 2.2 seconds between 50 and 70mph in sixth. The gearbox also isn’t as sweet as the SEAT’s, with less precision and a woollier feeling to the shift.
    Testers’ notes: “The 1.5 dCi engine has been developed for years and, thanks to improvements here, it is extremely refined. It’s quieter than the SEAT’s 1.6 TDI and nearly matches the 3008’s unit.”
    Peugeot 3008


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    Model: Peugeot 3008 1.6 BlueHDi 120 Allure
    Price: £26,125
    Engine: 1.6-litre 4cyl turbodiesel, 118bhp
    0-60mph: 10.8 seconds
    Test economy: 44.1mpg/9.7mpl
    CO2: 104g/km
    Annual road tax: £140

    The 3008 has proven a big hit for Peugeot. It’s our favourite mid-size SUV, and here we test the £26,125 1.6 BlueHDi 120 model in mid-spec Allure trim (our pictures show a GT Line) to match the Qashqai.
    The 1.6-litre four-cylinder turbodiesel is the punchiest unit here, with 118bhp and 300Nm of torque. This showed during our test because the 3008 served up strong in-gear acceleration at the track.
    It took a relatively sprightly 11.8 seconds to accelerate between 50 and 70mph in sixth gear, which was 3.2 seconds faster than the Ateca and 2.2 seconds quicker than the Qashqai. This advantage was reinforced in the lower gears between 30 and 50mph, where the 3008 took 3.9 seconds to complete this test in third.

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    However, the six-speed manual transmission isn’t as willing or as open to fast changes as the SEAT’s more mechanically precise box, which explains the slightly slower 10.8-second 0-60mph time, although it was still eight tenths quicker than the Qashqai.
    Outright performance isn’t what these cars are about, and the flexibility provided by the 3008’s extra torque is more welcome. So is the unit’s refinement compared with the SEAT’s noisier engine.
    Neither of its rivals delivers as much comfort as the 3008, either. Helped by the EMP2 platform, the damping is plusher. The Peugeot still gets upset by larger, sharper bumps, but it’s less frenetic than the firm Ateca and controls body and wheel movement with more composure than the Qashqai, which tends to jolt over torn roads.

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    There is a downside, because the small steering wheel, quick steering and soft set-up mean the 3008 rolls a little in corners. It’s also not as quick to change direction, or as sharp through a series of bends as the SEAT, but on the motorway, around town and on sweeping roads the 3008’s ride and handling is well pitched for a family SUV.
    Testers’ notes: “There’s some off-road ability, but no 4WD. Instead, you can spec Peugeot’s Grip Control function, which adds clever programming for the ESC to help on different surfaces.”
    SEAT Ateca


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    Model: SEAT Ateca 1.6 TDI Ecomotive SE Technology
    Price: £24,330
    Engine: 1.6-litre 4cyl turbodiesel, 113bhp
    0-60mph: 10.4 seconds
    Test economy: 45.7mpg/10.1mpl
    CO2: 119g/km
    Annual road tax: £140

    The Ateca was SEAT’s first foray into the SUV market. There’s a larger off-roader on the way, but for now the Spanish manufacturer’s crossover debut is still breaking new ground for the firm. We test the 1.6 TDI in £24,330 SE Technology spec to see if it can beat its competitors here.
    The SEAT isn’t as refined as the other cars on test, though. Its 113bhp 1.6 TDI is louder than the downsized diesels fitted to its rivals. With only 250Nm of torque (the least here), it also wasn’t as quick in gear at the test track. The Ateca took 15 seconds to accelerate between 50 and 70mph in sixth, although it was faster than the Nissan in the lower gears.
    Good traction off the line and a lovely, precise six-speed manual transmission meant the Ateca was actually the fastest car over the 0-60mph benchmark sprint, clocking 10.4 seconds. The gearbox allows you to make up time going up the ratios, whereas you have to be slower and more methodical in the other models.

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    Along with the steering – which offers the nicest weighting and greatest connection to the car here – it’s the best choice if you value driver involvement above all else, but in this class comfort and refinement are likely to be more important.
    The Ateca doesn’t hit the heights of the Peugeot here because the firmer set-up means you feel more from the road surface when on the move. It’s not as compliant over country roads, either, and while the SEAT retains good composure thanks to a level of grip that would rival a hatchback, it doesn’t smooth out broken surfaces as adeptly as the 3008.
    The noisier engine also means the Ateca is less relaxing on a cruise, while the lack of torque only compounds this. You have to work the engine and gearbox harder, revving it more, so the diesel drone is all the more apparent.

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    Testers’ notes: “Unless you do lots of miles every year, a diesel might not be the best bet. All three cars here offer a downsized turbo petrol alternative that will be cheaper to buy.”
    Verdict

    First place: Peugeot 3008


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    The 3008 might be the priciest car here, however you buy it, but it delivers more for your money, especially now PCP deals have been published. It has a higher-quality feel, gets more kit than its rivals and it’s more spacious. Factor in the extra flexibility from the 1.6-litre diesel, which mixes this with an impressive level of refinement, and the Peugeot is the most complete mid-size SUV on sale.
    Second place:SEAT Ateca


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    If you need practical family transport but still value driver appeal, the Ateca offers something over and above its rivals in this test. It’s affordable – especially on a monthly PCP deal – but the SEAT isn’t as comfortable nor as versatile as the Peugeot, and neither is it as advanced when it comes to infotainment, which is where many buyers engage with their cars.
    Third place:Nissan Qashqai


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    This facelifted Qashqai feels like a missed opportunity for Nissan. The revisions aren’t major, so while the car is a little more comfortable and refined, it’s still lacking in too many areas given the ground rivals have made up. The infotainment feels well behind the 3008, while it trails both rivals for practicality. It’s efficient and refined, but so is the competition.
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    Renault Kadjar


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    Price: £24,595
    Engine: 1.5-litre 4cyl, 108bhp

    The Renault Kadjar uses the same engine and chassis as the new Qashqai, but it’s not quite as refined or comfortable. However, it’s keenly priced and gets lots of kit – including a better infotainment system – in Dynamique S Nav trim.
    Toyota C-HR


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    Price: £26,585
    Engine: 1.8 petrol/electric, 120bhp

    If you don’t want a diesel SUV, you could try a hybrid. The C-HR’s petrol/electric powertrain works well, but it is pricey. Still, you get lots of kit in Excel trim, such as sat-nav, a reversing camera and emergency braking with pedestrian protection.
    Figures


    Peugeot 3008 SEAT Ateca Nissan Qashqai
    On the road price/total as tested £26,125/£26,125 £24,330/£26,175 £25,555/£25,555
    Residual value (after 3yrs/36,000) £10,701/41.0% £11,374/46.8% £10,526/41.2%
    Depreciation £15,424 £12,956 £15,029
    Annual tax liability std/higher rate £1,141/£2,282 £1,206/£2,412 £1,066/£2,132
    Annual fuel cost (12k/20k miles) £1,431/£2,385 £1,381/£2,302 £1,448/£2,413
    Ins. group/quote/road tax cost 16/£638/£140 11/£540/£140 14/£707/£140
    Cost of 1st/2nd/3rd service £13 per month (3yrs) £498 (3yrs) £159/£249/£159
    Length/wheelbase 4,447/2,675mm 4,363/2,638mm 4,394/2,646mm
    Height/width 1,620/1,841mm 1,841/1,615mm 1,590/1,806mm
    Engine 4cyl in-line/1,560cc 4cyl in-line/1,598cc 4cyl in-line/1,461cc
    Peak power/revs 118/3,500 bhp/rpm 113/3,250 bhp/rpm 108/4,000 bhp/rpm
    Peak torque/revs 300/1,750 Nm/rpm 250/1,500 Nm/rpm 260/1,750 Nm/rpm
    Transmission 6-spd man/fwd 6-spd man/fwd 6-spd man/fwd
    Fuel tank capacity/spare wheel 53 litres/yes 50 litres/£110 55 litres/£215
    Boot capacity (seats up/down) 591/1,670 litres 510/1,604 litres 430/1,598 litres
    Kerbweight/payload/towing weight 1,300/670/1,500kg 1,375/535/1,700kg 1,379/531/1,350kg
    Turning circle 10.7 metres 10.8 metres 10.7 metres
    Basic warranty (miles)/recovery 3yrs (60,000)/1yr 3yrs (60,000)/2yrs 3yrs (60,000)/3yrs
    Service intervals/UK dealers 10,000 (1yr)/283 Variable/283 18,000 (1yr)/128
    Driver Power manufacturer/dealer pos. 13th/9th 6th/17th 20th/25th
    NCAP: Adult/child/ped./assist/stars 86/85/67/58/5 93/84/71/60/5 88/83/69/79/5
    0-60/30-70mph 10.8/10.8 secs 10.4/10.2 secs 11.6/12.7 secs
    30-50mph in 3rd/4th 3.9/6.3 secs 4.2/6.4 secs 5.0/7.6 secs
    50-70mph in 5th/6th/7th/8th 8.8/11.8 secs 10.4/15.0 secs 10.8/14.0 secs
    Top speed/rpm at 70mph 117mph/1,900rpm 114mph/1,900rpm 113mph/2,000rpm
    Braking 70-0/60-0/30-0mph 46.5/33.0/11.4m 44.5/33.4/8.4m 52.2/34.6/10.3m
    Noise outside/idle/30/70mph 65/42/60/68dB 67/44/60/68dB 66/47/57/68dB
    Auto Express econ (mpg/mpl)/range 44.1/9.7/514 miles 45.7/10.1/503 miles 43.6/9.6/527 miles
    Govt urban/extra-urban/combined 60.1/80.7/70.6mpg 57.6/65.7/62.8mpg 67.3/78.5/74.3mpg
    Govt urban/extra-urban/combined 13.2/17.8/15.5mpl 12.7/14.5/13.8mpl 14.8/17.3/16.3mpl
    Actual/claimed CO2/tax bracket 172/104g/km/22% 166/119g/km/25% 174/99g/km/21%
    Airbags/Isofix/park sensors/camera Six/yes/yes/yes Seven/yes/yes/£220 Six/yes/yes/yes
    Auto box/stability/cruise control/AEB £1,400/yes/yes/yes No/yes/yes/yes No/yes/yes/yes
    Climate control/leather/heated seats Yes/no/£560 Yes/no/£325* Yes/no/yes
    Met paint/LED lights/keyless entry & go £525/£850/£350 £575/yes/£505 £575/£495/yes
    Sat-nav/USB/DAB radio/Bluetooth Yes/yes/yes/yes Yes/yes/yes/yes Yes/yes/yes/yes




    #2
    Nissan Qashqai enfrenta uma luta para recuperar sua coroa de cruzamento da Peugeot 3008 e SEAT Ateca


    O Qashqai começou algo no Reino Unido. Houve crossovers antes disso, mas nenhum deles capturou a atenção do público que compra carro como o Nissan fez. Este foi um modelo que ofereceu a praticidade e o recurso de um 4x4, mas sem o preço premium, e os motoristas agarraram Qashqais em massa.
    No entanto, como o carro original lançado em 2006, o mercado avançou em um ritmo feroz. Enquanto o modelo de segunda geração trouxe estilo mais esbelto e tecnologia extra, ele também estava ficando um pouco longo no dente em comparação com os melhores carros da classe.
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    Então, a Nissan voltou ao quadro de desenho com este lifting facial, injetando uma sugestão extra de charme de luxo e tecnologia mais moderna, combinada com as mesmas qualidades que fizeram o Qashqai um sucesso. Eficiência, praticidade, acessibilidade, refinamento, dinâmica de condução, desempenho - um crossover familiar deve cobrir todas essas bases




    Colocamos o Nissan contra nosso SUV favorito de tamanho médio, o Peugeot 3008 e o talentoso SEAT Ateca. Então, alguns ajustes cosméticos leves, um sistema de infotainment revisado, uma guarnição interior e um kit de segurança extra suficientes para levar o Qashqai de volta ao topo desta classe?

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      #3
      Qashqai:

      O sucesso da Nissan, mas com rivais mais modernos e mais modernos que corroem o apelo do carro, esta nova versão pretende voltar ao topo da aula. Aqui, testamos um modelo de £ 25,555 N-Connecta 1.5 dCi.


      O hardware familiar do Qashqai foi ligeiramente retomado com diferentes taxas de mola e amortecedor para suavizar o chassi e melhorar o conforto.


      Embora a diferença seja marginal, é notável, porque o Qashqai se sente um pouco mais compatível com as estradas irregulares, com a suspensão absorvendo e controlando os movimentos das rodas melhor do que antes. No entanto, não oferece o nível de conforto oferecido no 3008, e não é tão ágil como o Ateca.




      A barra anti-roll do carro é realmente mais rígida, para manter a compostura nos cantos, mas o Nissan não é muito envolvente para dirigir. Há muita conexão com o que está acontecendo na superfície da estrada através da direção, enquanto não se sente tão alerta e responsivo como seus rivais, apesar dos ajustes dinâmicos do Qashqai.


      Essas mudanças incluem um sistema Intelligent Ride Control, que é dito para reduzir o movimento do corpo em grandes solavancos, além de Intelligent Trace Control, que aplica os freios a certas rodas nos cantos para ajudar o carro a manter uma linha mais apertada.


      O venerável motor turbodiesel de quatro cilindros de 1.5 litros de 108bhp da Nissan é o menos poderoso dos três e também oferece menos torque do que o Peugeot, a 260Nm. Este déficit mostrou em teste, onde o Qashqai percorreu o Ateca de 0-60 mph em mais de um segundo, levando 11,6 segundos.




      O resultado foi o mesmo durante nossos testes in-gear, onde o Nissan foi 1,3 segundos mais lento do que o 3008 entre 30 e 50 mph em quarto, e ficou em 2,2 segundos entre 50 e 70 mph em sexto. A caixa de velocidades também não é tão doce quanto a do SEAT, com menos precisão e um sentimento mais macio para o turno.


      Notas: "O motor 1.5 dCi foi desenvolvido há anos e, graças a melhorias aqui, é extremamente refinado. É mais silencioso que o 1.6 TDI do SEAT e quase coincide com a unidade dos 3008 ".

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        #4
        Sem traduzir tudo que demorava imenso neste segmento continua o mesmo. A avaliação inglesa é a mesma que tenho em Zurique:

        Renault-Nissan a tentar fazer carros base para apostar nas frotas. Eu tinha altas esperanças no Qashqai mas nao acontece acompanhar a concorrencia (algo comum no grupo Renault Nissan com o clio, megane etc).

        E o 3008 a bater-se mano to mano com a mercedes/bmw. Altamente inovativo como qualquer cidadão privativo quer.

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          #5
          Originalmente Colocado por Superfast Ver Post
          Sem traduzir tudo que demorava imenso neste segmento continua o mesmo. A avaliação inglesa é a mesma que tenho em Zurique:

          Renault-Nissan a tentar fazer carros base para apostar nas frotas. Eu tinha altas esperanças no Qashqai mas nao acontece acompanhar a concorrencia (algo comum no grupo Renault Nissan com o clio, megane etc).

          E o 3008 a bater-se mano to mano com a mercedes/bmw. Altamente inovativo como qualquer cidadão privativo quer.
          Não sei quanto à mercedes (GLA, presumo), mas quanto ao X1 da BMW é da noite para o dia entrar num 3008 depois de estar num X1. No que respeita ao mercedes GLA, nunca entrei em nenhum, nem tão pouco está em consideração para compra de SUV, simplesmente porque o aspeto exterior não me diz nada....

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            #6
            Está ainda é a faltar a comparação, quanto a mim mais importante, entre o Peugeot 3008 e o novo mazda CX5 (este também a querer atirar-se aos premium)....

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              #7
              Originalmente Colocado por robertomp Ver Post
              Está ainda é a faltar a comparação, quanto a mim mais importante, entre o Peugeot 3008 e o novo mazda CX5 (este também a querer atirar-se aos premium)....
              http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/mazda/cx-5

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                #8
                Originalmente Colocado por Superfast Ver Post
                Boa análise, mas sem uma comparação adequada com o 3008.

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