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    Tópico Hispano-Suiza

    Pois, está de volta.

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    "GENEVA: HISPANO SUIZA RETURNS

    Former Audi design wizard pens new 750bhp supercar

    The legendary Hispano Suiza marque has been relaunched at Geneva, in the shape of this swoopy coupe that features a 750bhp supercharged V10. The new car's engine, space frame and running gear are from the Audi/Lamborghini stable, although the Audi R8 frame is has been lengthened and widened, while the engine has been treated to what the car's designer Erwin Himmel describes as 'a very large compressor'.
    Like its historic ancestors, the new Hispano Suiza is designed - and priced - for extreme exclusivity. Herr Himmel tells us he plans to build between 25 and 50 cars annually, and they'll cost roughly £700,000 a pop.
    According to the designer the Hispano Suiza brand will be extended in future with a four door coupe and a SUV- type vehicle both on the drawing board.
    In case the name is familiar, Erwin Himmel is a former big cheese designer from the VW/Audi group, with a list of credits that include Audi's 1991 Frankfurt show car, the Quattro Spyder, and pretty much every Audi production car from 1982 to 1990. As well as making a new name for itself in the luxury automotive sector, Hispano Suiza apparently intends to spread its brand liberally across various 'ultimate luxury' lifestyle sectors, with plans for everything from Hispano Suiza watches to luggage and even yachts."


    A possível tradução:

    "GENEBRA: Hispano Suiza RETORNOS

    Ex-assistente de design Audi canetas supercar 750bhp novo
    O lendário Hispano Suiza marca foi relançada em Genebra, na forma deste cupê swoopy que possui um V10 750bhp sobrecarregado.
    O motor do novo carro, o quadro de espaço e de rolamento são da Audi / Lamborghini estável, embora o quadro Audi R8 é foi alongada e alargada, enquanto que o motor tenha sido tratada de modo a que o designer do carro Erwin Himmel descreve como "um compressor muito grande '.

    Tal como os seus antepassados históricos, o novo Hispano Suiza foi concebido - e preço - de extrema exclusividade. Herr Himmel nos diz que ele pretende construir entre 25 e 50 carros por ano, e vão custar cerca de £ 700.000 um pop.

    De acordo com o designer da marca Hispano Suiza será alargado, no futuro, um cupê de quatro portas e um SUV tipo de veículo, tanto na prancheta.
    No caso, o nome é familiar, Erwin Himmel é um ex-designer de queijo grande do grupo VW / Audi, com uma lista de créditos que incluem 1991 Audi Car Show Frankfurt, o Spyder Quattro, e praticamente toda a produção de automóveis Audi 1982-1990 .

    Bem como fazer um novo nome para si no sector automóvel de luxo, Hispano Suiza, aparentemente, tem a intenção de espalhar sua marca liberal em vários sectores "luxuoso" estilo de vida, com planos para tudo, desde relógios Hispano Suiza de bagagem e até iates. "

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    Editado pela última vez por TVRfanboy; 02 March 2010, 16:29.

    #2
    é o sinal do novo-riquismo em certos paises...

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      #3
      Não gostei das pinças em vermelho, mas no geral acho que está exótico como era tradição da marca.

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        #4
        Parece um R8 modificado

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          #5
          Originalmente Colocado por Alpiger Ver Post
          Parece um R8 modificado
          Parece não, é.

          "The new Hispano Suiza (there's no model name) is essentially a rebodied aluminum, magnesium and carbon fiber Audi R8 V10 5.2 FSI, only they've plugged two electric-superchargers into the intake manifold."

          Autoblog — We Obsessively Cover The Auto Industry

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            #6
            Originalmente Colocado por TVRfanboy Ver Post
            Pois, está de volta.

            Devias ter aberto o tópico a semana passada qd puseste o render no quiz!

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              #7
              Realmente é um R8 alterado..e a mim, a frente faz lembrar a do BMW Gina

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                #8
                Originalmente Colocado por Zix Ver Post
                Devias ter aberto o tópico a semana passada qd puseste o render no quiz!
                Realmente...
                Mais algumas imagens:

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                  #9
                  a frente faz me lembrar

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                    #10
                    Mesmo que fosse um carro bonito (que não é, na minha opinião) não vale os 700.000€ que vai custar. Isso é o preço de 3 R8 V10 e um M3 em Portugal.

                    O R8 pode não ser tão exclusivo, mas 500.000€ por um body kit parece-me um tanto ao quanto exagerado.

                    Mais vale investir o dinheiro no novo Gallardo Superlegera, que é bem mais exclusivo do que o R8 e partilha com este uma boa parte dos seus componentes.

                    Não vejo grande futuro para este renascimento da Hispano Suiza.

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                      #11
                      Tantos €€€ para fazer um tuning (ou xuning) ao R8... hum...

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                        #12
                        Originalmente Colocado por TVRfanboy Ver Post
                        Realmente...
                        Mais algumas imagens:

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                        É que assim tinha acertado.

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                          #13
                          Parece um barco com rodas.

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                            #14
                            É impressão minha ou um carro destes, proposto por 700.000€, não deveria ter uns discos maiores atrás

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                              #15
                              A hispano suiza é uma das mais fabulosas marcas de automóveis.

                              É uma vergonha, que alguém a use para rebaptizar outro carro, agora um concorrente do bugatti.

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                                #16
                                Acho que a marca merecia um renascimento melhor, talvez recorrendo novamente ás tentativas da década passada:





                                Editado pela última vez por RPalma; 03 March 2010, 20:50.

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                                  #17
                                  Editado pela última vez por TVRfanboy; 03 March 2010, 11:21.

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                                    #18
                                    Está brutal, não me parece que vá envergonhar a marca, e como os carros antigos são criados para serem exclusivos e não carro do povo, se repararem eles dizem que vão produzir entre 25 a 50 por ano, para terem ideia o Veyron que já é exclusivo são produzidos entre 75 a 100 por ano.

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                                      #19
                                      A Hispano-Suiza era uma marca fabulosa, quase, ou mesmo ao nível da Duesenberg.
                                      O modelo Boulgne de 1924 tinha um motor de 6 cilindros com 8L de cilindrada que pertencia a um avião, já que a marca produzia motores de aviões.
                                      Era na época um modelo sem par. A própria carroçaria era construida em madeira de magnólia e os travões eram fabulosos para a época.

                                      Este novo Hispano Suiza é um ultraje à marca.

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                                        #20
                                        Essa alavanca de velocidades

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                                          #21
                                          No museu do Caramulo existe um exemplar - dos antigos, é evidente - com pouquíssimos quilómetros. É "novo", nunca foi utilizado.

                                          É um dos H.S. mais raros do mundo.

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                                            #22
                                            Horrivel, parece um carro dos putos brincarem daqueles feitos em Taiwan.

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                                              #23
                                              Editado pela última vez por TVRfanboy; 04 March 2010, 01:34.

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                                                #24
                                                Entrevista com um membro da marca

                                                If there are any pre-war classics fans out there, then you are probably already aware that a historical car brand has been recently revived (again) at the 2010 Geneva Auto Show. We say "again" because the Hispano-Suiza brand had been previously brought back from the dead in the early 2000s. More specifically, the Spanish Hispano-Suiza HS21 GTS concept was being unveiled at the 2002 Geneva Auto Show, but without having even a 1% chance of ever making it into production. Which naturally, it never did.

                                                For those of you who aren't fluent enough in Spanish, "Hispano-Suiza" means "Spanish-Swiss", and during in the 1920s and 1930s it was going up against manufacturers like Mercedes-Benz, Maybach, Bugatti and Rolls-Royce. Like many other super luxury car builders of that period though, they went belly up when World War II came.

                                                Originally, it was a 100% Spanish company, but after a few years of going bankrupt and being restructured over and over again, they moved to France, where most of their best models came off their production lines. Also, a Swiss engineer called Marc Birkigt was in charge of their most successful cars and engines, hence the "Suiza" part of the brand's name.

                                                Eight years after the 2002 Spanish concept, the Hispano-Suiza brand is in Swiss pockets now, and a new concept for a series production supercar has been launched at the 2010 edition of the... drum roll... Geneva Auto Show. This only translates into two major coincidences... or does it?

                                                The first one is that both aforementioned concepts were unveiled at Geneva. The second one is that the original HS21 GTS concept was made by a Spanish company called Mazel, while the second one is made by the Swiss. Kind of like a (OK, a bit far-fetched) reenactment of the original Hispano Suiza story, using concepts.

                                                The latest - and yet unnamed - concept was designed by none other than Erwin Himmel, ex-Audi designer, while the technical bits were taken cared of by Roland Mayer, ex-head of Audi Sport and co-developer of the Gumpert Apollo. Coincidentally (or not) the car is mildly based on an Audi R8 V10.

                                                To get to the bottom of it, we spoke with one of the new Hispano Suiza officials present at this year's Geneva Auto Show. This is a rough transcript of that conversation:

                                                Alex Oagana: Hi, as far as we learned by now, the car is based on an Audi R8...

                                                Hispano Suiza official:
                                                Yes, the drivetrain comes from the Audi R8, but the engine has been thoroughly modified. We have two electrically-driven compressors that help its V10 mill to provide 750 horsepower, instead of 525. Also, since the wheelbase is twenty centimeters longer, almost every system onboard had to be modified because otherwise it wouldn't have fit. The car is different from an Audi R8 in many, many ways. For example, because of the longer wheelbase, we had to completely change the electronic stability control.

                                                Alex Oagana: When will deliveries start?

                                                Hispano Suiza official:
                                                The deliveries will not start until October of this year, because the plant - the manufacturing plant - is not ready yet.

                                                Alex Oagana: So, as of now, you haven't even built the factory. Where is the car going to be manufactured anyway?

                                                Hispano Suiza official: Near Zurich, in Zug. (Zug is a small Swiss town of about 25 thousand inhabitants, ed.)

                                                Alex Oagana: Oh I see, it will be a strictly Swiss car.

                                                Hispano Suiza official:
                                                Yes, but the prototype was made in Munich, Germany.

                                                Alex Oagana: I see, so how many units do you expect to build over a year's period?

                                                Hispano Suiza official: Oh, about 20 to 25 units per year – we want to keep it very exclusive.

                                                Alex Oagana: Do you currently have an engine range for the car? Better yet, do you intend to offer a whole model range for the Hispano Suiza brand in the future?

                                                Hispano Suiza official: Well, currently, there are two power options for the engine. We have this one, with 750 horsepower, but we are also testing – not in this car here – an electrical engine and a hybrid transmission, which will offer 150 horsepower to the front axle alone, with 900 horsepower in total. That version will be able to cruise around town just on electricity, without using any combustible fuel and without emitting a single gram of CO2, just like a full hybrid. As a matter of fact, it will be the world's first production hybrid supercar.

                                                Alex Oagana:
                                                What about the manufacturing process? How will that...

                                                Hispano Suiza official: It is more or less manufacturing, it is not a process. Everything about the car is hand made.

                                                Alex Oagana: I understand, but what about its aluminium body? How does that work, do you receive the chassis already built by Audi in Neckarsulm or...

                                                Hispano Suiza official: No, no, no. The body is aluminium space frame, with magnesium and carbon fiber and it is manufactured by ourselves.

                                                Alex Oagana: So it's not a modified R8 body as well?

                                                Hispano Suiza official:
                                                No. It is very light, this car. Only 1590 kilograms (3505 pounds). For a big thing like this, it is very light. So the performance is smashing – only 3.4 seconds from zero to 100 kilometers per hour (62 mph) and a 340 km/h (211 mph) top speed.

                                                Alex Oagana: That's pretty fast... Have you tested a running model of the car so far?

                                                Hispano Suiza official: Yeah, we had it tested. We were in the wind tunnel with it but we haven't made any tests as far as top speed is concerned. In the wind tunnel though, we found out that there's no modification needed for the car's rear. It doesn't need a spoiler.

                                                Alex Oagana: So there's enough downforce to keep it on the road at high speed and it's also slippery enough to achieve its calculated top speed?

                                                Hispano Suiza official: Yes, it has enough downforce.

                                                Alex Oagana: Why did you decide that a supercar would be a good first model for the recently revived Hispano Suiza brand? Why not a luxury car, to carry on the tradition? (at this point, the guy went all "George W. Bush" on me)

                                                Hispano Suiza official: Because the basic idea was... You see, at this price range, you take one decision and it is right or wrong. We decided that the best would be to build a sportscar.

                                                Alex Oagana: Mkay... Do you have any potential clients or maybe even orders for the car until now?

                                                Hispano Suiza official:
                                                Yeah, as a matter of fact we had two prospective customers today. So we are now convinced that many more will probably follow during and after the show (Geneva Auto Show, ed.).

                                                Alex Oagana: Nice... Any future plans? Where do you see this brand in five years?

                                                Hispano Suiza official: Well, first things first. If this car will be a success, we can imagine it will probably have a topless version and some other special variants. Nothing too fancy, like a totally new model, for now, but for the future... you never know.

                                                If you're intrigued by this exclusive supercar and want to learn more about its performance levels, here are its specifications:

                                                Engine: 5.2L FSI V10 with direct fuel injection, twin supercharged
                                                Displacement: 5204 cc
                                                Transmission: 6-speed manual gearbox, optional automatic 6-speed - gearbox with pedal shift
                                                Drive: permanent all-wheel drive
                                                Clutch: Double-plate clutch
                                                Engine power(max.): 750 HP (551 kW) at 8.200 rpm
                                                Torque (max.): 700 Nm (516.29 lb-ft) at 6,650 rpm
                                                Acceleration: 0-62 mph 3.4 seconds
                                                Top speed: more than 330 km/h (205.05 mph)
                                                Brake system: 380 x 38 carbon-ceramic, ventilated (front), 356 x 32 carbon-ceramic, ventilated (rear), with ABS/ESP
                                                Wheels: 22 x 10 (front), 22 x 11 (rear) I+r 7-spoke forged wheel, Center-locking
                                                Tires: Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 275/25 ZR 22 (front), PS2 295/25 ZR 22 (rear)
                                                Curb weight: 1,590 kg (3,505.35 lbs)
                                                Average fuel consumption: 13.5 L/100 km (17.42 mpg)
                                                CO2 emissions: 348 g/km (560.05 g/mile)
                                                Dimensions: (L x W x H) 4,940 mm (194.49 in) x 2,064 mm (81.26 in) x 1,250 mm (49.21 in)
                                                Bodywork: Aluminum space frame with carbon body
                                                Fonte: autoevolution

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