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    Best 9/11 documentary ever!(full movie)

    BEST 9/11 DOCUMENTARY EVER!(FULL MOVIE)

    BEST 9/11 DOCUMENTARY EVER!(FULL MOVIE) - YouTube


    É tão difícil de acreditar, que muitos recusam-se a acreditar nas evidencias.

    #2
    Originalmente Colocado por Gugul Ver Post
    BEST 9/11 DOCUMENTARY EVER!(FULL MOVIE)

    BEST 9/11 DOCUMENTARY EVER!(FULL MOVIE) - YouTube


    É tão difícil de acreditar, que muitos recusam-se a acreditar nas evidencias.
    Mais uma teoria da conspiração? Se estes atentandos foram "feitos" pelos americanos, porque é que a Al-Qaeda ia reivindicar os mesmos? Só se fossem idiotas.

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      #3
      Já existe um tópico com montes de teorias tão ou mais estúpidas como estas

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        #4
        Deixa-me adivinhar... a verdade é que as torres do WTC nunca existiram!

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          #5
          Originalmente Colocado por DigCb Ver Post
          Deixa-me adivinhar... a verdade é que as torres do WTC nunca existiram!



          Se calhar estás a exagerar um bocadinho, mas olha que eu já vi teorias a dizer que aqueles aviões que lá bateram nunca existiram e foi tudo efeitos especiais combinados entre as várias redes de TV que estavam a filmar em directo! E as pessoas que viram os aviões a bater (inclusive no pentágono, porque há centenas delas das quais as conspirações nunca falam) também foram lá plantadas e pagas para dizer o que não viram.

          Olha, pelo menos vai dando para rir um bocado com tanto lunático

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            #6
            Originalmente Colocado por Ilyushin Ver Post
            Olha, pelo menos vai dando para rir um bocado com tanto lunático
            Os EUA servem para isso mesmo, para nos entreter.

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              #7
              Originalmente Colocado por Joana1984 Ver Post
              Mais uma teoria da conspiração? Se estes atentandos foram "feitos" pelos americanos, porque é que a Al-Qaeda ia reivindicar os mesmos? Só se fossem idiotas.
              Vê-se que não viste nada do filme, por isso continua a achar que é uma teoria da conspiração.

              Que eu é que não vou perder tempo a explicar-te, porque já tas bem formatada LOL

              Como disse logo de inicio, há quem prefere não acreditar, pois a realidade não é nada bonita!

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                #8
                Faz lá o resumo desse tempão todo. É mais alguma teoria da conspiração?

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                  #9
                  Originalmente Colocado por quimbeto Ver Post
                  Faz lá o resumo desse tempão todo. É mais alguma teoria da conspiração?
                  Não pá a verdade é o que ouves no telejornal LOLOLOLOL

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                    #10
                    Originalmente Colocado por Gugul Ver Post
                    Vê-se que não viste nada do filme, por isso continua a achar que é uma teoria da conspiração.

                    Que eu é que não vou perder tempo a explicar-te, porque já tas bem formatada LOL

                    Como disse logo de inicio, há quem prefere não acreditar, pois a realidade não é nada bonita!
                    Eu vi apenas um bocado, até à parte do italiano que tenta provar que as torres não poderiam ter caído e do pseudo especialista que tenta analisar a cor do fogo a partir das imagens da TV e depois compara com o incêndio em Espanha (que só por acaso foi à noite, e daí conclui que a temperatura lá dentro não poderia ser muito alta. Só com estes dois treinadores de bancada o documentário já perdeu todo o crédito, e a partir daí desisti de ver porque já sei o que vai sair dali..

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                      #11
                      Originalmente Colocado por Gugul Ver Post
                      Vê-se que não viste nada do filme, por isso continua a achar que é uma teoria da conspiração.

                      Que eu é que não vou perder tempo a explicar-te, porque já tas bem formatada LOL

                      Como disse logo de inicio, há quem prefere não acreditar, pois a realidade não é nada bonita!
                      Eu acredito em factos concretos - neste caso houve atentados terroristas, no Pentagono foram encontrados vestígios de um avião, nas Torres viram-se os aviões a embater, a Al-Qaeda reivindica os atentados, chegaram a morrer judeus neste atentado (o que contraria a versão dos judeus terem sido avisados), etc..... . Queres mais provas?

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                        #12
                        Originalmente Colocado por Joana1984 Ver Post
                        Eu acredito em factos concretos - neste caso houve atentados terroristas, no Pentagono foram encontrados vestígios de um avião, nas Torres viram-se os aviões a embater, a Al-Qaeda reivindica os atentados, chegaram a morrer judeus neste atentado (o que contraria a versão dos judeus terem sido avisados), etc..... . Queres mais provas?

                        Quanto à parte do Pentágono, eu volto a dizer: há CENTENAS de testemunhas que VIRAM um avião a baixa altidude e algumas dezenas que assistiram ao vivo ao avião bater no Pentágono. Essas testemunhas são conhecidas, e podem inclusive ser contactadas por quem não acredita que foi um avião, mas este PEQUENO detalhe nunca é mencionado pelos "descrentes". Mas há quem continue a dizer que não foi um avião! Será que as pessoas não têm um mínimo de bom senso, ou preferem ignorar factos concretos e acreditar naquilo que querem?

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                          #13
                          Foi daqueles que já tinha visto. É o normal

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                            #14
                            Sim e as torres também derreteram por isso cairam.

                            É só fatos LOL

                            Cada um acredita naquilo que quer ;)

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                              #15
                              Gugul, Chegam estes? Ou estes gajos são todos malucos? Agora fico à espera que tu arranjes uma única testemunha que tenha visto colocarem explosivos em qualquer dos prédios que ruiu, ou que tenha VISTO um objecto que não seja um avião a bater contra o pentágono. Se puderes responder agradeço. (desculpem lá o tamanho do post, mas por vezes é preciso provar o que se diz



                              Air Force Lt. Col. Marc Abshire, 40, a speechwriter for Air Force Secretary James Roche, was working on several speeches this morning when he felt the blast of the explosion at the Pentagon. His office is on the D ring, near the eighth corridor, he said. "It shot me back in my chair. There was a huge blast. I could feel the air shock wave of it," Abshire said. "I didn't know exactly what it was. It didn't rumble. It was more of a direct smack. I said, 'This isn't right. Something's wrong here.'" "We all went out in the hallway. People were yelling 'Evacuate! Evacuate!' And we found ourselves on the lawn and looking back on our building. It was very much a surrealistic sort of experience. It's just definitely not right to see smoke coming out of the Pentagon. It was a very strange sight to see."
                              washingtonpost.com
                              Anderson, Steve
                              I witnessed the jet hit the Pentagon on September 11. From my office on the 19th floor of the USA TODAY building in Arlington, Va., I have a view of Arlington Cemetery, Crystal City, the Pentagon, National Airport and the Potomac River. ... Shortly after watching the second tragedy, I heard jet engines pass our building, which, being so close to the airport is very common. But I thought the airport was closed. I figured it was a plane coming in for landing. A few moments later, as I was looking down at my desk, the plane caught my eye. It didn't register at first. I thought to myself that I couldn't believe the pilot was flying so low. Then it dawned on me what was about to happen. I watched in horror as the plane flew at treetop level, banked slightly to the left, drug it's wing along the ground and slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon exploding into a giant orange fireball. Then black smoke. Then white smoke.
                              http://www.jmu.edu/alumni/tragedy%5Fresponse/read%5Fmessages.html
                              Anderson, Ted
                              Lt. Col. Ted Anderson : "We ran to the end of our building, turned left and saw nothing but huge, billowing black smoke, and a brilliant, brilliant explosion of fire." (...) One of the Pentagon's two fire trucks was parked only 50 feet from the crash site, and it was "totally engulfed in flames," Anderson says. Nearby, tanks full of propane and aviation fuel had begun igniting, and they soon began exploding, one by one. (...) Back in the building again, Anderson said he began "screaming and hollering for people as secondary and third-order explosions started going off. One of them was a fire department car exploding-I think my right eardrum exploded at the same time, and it unequivocally scared the heck out of me."
                              http://www.msnbc.com/news/635293.asp
                              Anlauf, Deb & Jeff
                              Mrs. Deb Anlauf, resident of Colfax, Wisconsin, was in her 14th floor of the Sheraton Hotel [located 1.6 mile from the explosion], (immediately west of the Navy Annex) when she heard a "loud roar": Suddenly I saw this plane right outside my window. You felt like you could touch it; it was that close. It was just incredible. "Then it shot straight across from where we are and flew right into the Pentagon. It was just this huge fireball that crashed into the wall (of the Pentagon). When it hit, the whole hotel shook. (...) Jeff didn't feel the impact of the plane crash as directly as his wife. He was attending an environmental meeting on the second floor of the hotel when the plane struck the Pentagon. About five seconds before the crash, Jeff said he heard the sound of "tin being dropped," likely as construction workers building an addition to the hotel saw the plane and dropped their building materials. "Then, about 5 seconds later, the whole hotel shook," Jeff recalled. "I could feel it moving. We said 'Oh, my gosh, what's going on?' "
                              http://www.leadertelegram.com/specia...etail.asp?ID=7
                              Battle
                              Battle, an office worker at the Pentagon, was standing outside the building and just about to enter when the aircraft struck. "It was coming down head first," he said. "And when the impact hit, the cars and everything were just shaking."
                              http://www.abqtrib.com/archives/news..._dcscene.shtml

                              Bauer, Gary
                              Gary Bauer, a former Presidential candidate, happened to be driving into Washington, D.C. that morning, to a press conference on Capitol Hill. "I was in a massive traffic jam, hadn't moved more than a hundred yards in twenty minutes. ... I had just passed the closest place the Pentagon is to the exit on 395 . . . when all of a sudden I heard the roar of a jet engine. I looked at the woman sitting in the car next to me. She had this startled look on her face. We were all thinking the same thing. We looked out the front of our windows to try to see the plane, and it wasn't until a few seconds later that we realized the jet was coming up behind us on that major highway. And it veered to the right into the Pentagon. The blast literally rocked all of our cars. It was an incredible moment." massnews.com / Amy Contrada / December 2001
                              Gary Bauer Identifies the Enemy at MFI Banquet

                              Bauer, Gary
                              "...came from behind us and banked to the right and went into the Pentagon." Interview with Warren Smith
                              http://www.thecharlotteworld.com/30%...garybauer.html

                              Beans, Michael
                              Anger and guilt still sear Lieutenant Colonel Michael Beans who shakes his head ruefully and asks himself why he survived: "Why you, not them? Who made that decision?" (...) Inside the Pentagon, the blast lifted Beans off the floor as he crossed a huge open office toward his desk. "You heard this huge concussion, then the room filled with this real bright light, just like everything was encompassed within this bright light," said Beans. "As soon as I hit the floor, all the lights went out, there was a small fire starting to burn." His friends were not so lucky. Not far away on the same floor, Beans' once familiar world had turned into a terrifying maze as well. Opening a door to the outer E-ring corridor, Beans saw waves of fire rolling towards him like surf on a beach. Turning back, he groped slowly back across the room on hands and knees. The sprinkler came on and that kept the smoke and heat down. But it was nervewracking and Beans was alone, listening as the building burned. "It was so quiet," he recalled. "There was no screaming, nobody saying anything, just nothing." He thought he might not make it out alive. He thought about his wife, his daughter and son, his 22 years in the army. "I remember taking a couple of breaths there, and I made up my mind: I just can't go out this way," he said. Suddenly out of the smoke a man ran by. "I tried to grab him, and I tried to yell at him," Beans said. But "he just disappeared into the smoke." Alone again, Beans crawled with his face to the floor. Then the carpet turned to wet tile, and he looked up and saw he was in a corridor. He ran and as the smoke cleared, he saw a guard. Beans discovered later that his head and forearms were burned. He now wears special flesh-colored compression sleeves on his arms. "These burns are going to heal, eventually," he said. But the memories "will be with me for the rest of my life."
                              General Information Blog
                              Begala, Paul
                              Paul Begala, a Democratic consultant, said he witnessed an explosion near the Pentagon. "It was a huge fireball, a huge, orange fireball," he said in an interview on his mobile phone. He said another witness told him a helicopter exploded. AP, Washington, 9/12/2001 11:45:33 PM
                              Pentagon eyewitness accounts | World news | The Guardian
                              Bell, Mickey
                              Mickey Bell : The jet came in from the south and banked left as it entered the building, narrowly missing the Singleton Electric trailer and the on-site foreman, Mickey Bell. Bell had just left the trailer when he heard a loud noise. The next thing he recalled was picking himself off the floor, where he had been thrown by the blast. Bell, who had been less than 100 feet from the initial impact of the plane, was nearly struck by one of the plane's wings as it sped by him. In shock, he got into his truck, which had been parked in the trailer compound, and sped away. He wandered around Arlington in his truck and tried to make wireless phone calls. He ended up back at Singleton's headquarters in Gaithersburg two hours later, according to President Singleton, not remembering much. The full impact of the closeness of the crash wasn't realized until coworkers noticed damage to Bell's work vehicle. He had plastic and rivets from an airplane imbedded in its sheet metal, but Bell had no idea what had happened. During Bell's close call, other Singleton workers, including sub-foreman Greg Cobaugh, were doing other work on the first and third floors. The blast wasn't very loud to them. They were talking about reports that two planes crashed into the World Trade Center in Manhattan, New York - not considering the noise they heard could be a similar attack.
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                              Benedetto, Richard
                              Richard Benedetto, a USA TODAY reporter, was on his way to work, driving on the Highway parrallel to the Pentagon : "It was an American Airlines airplane, I could see it very clearly.(...) I didn't see the impact. (...) The sound itself sounded more like a thud rather than a bomb (...) rather than a loud bomb explosion it sounded muffled, heavy, very deep. I didn't see any flaps, it looked like the plane was just in normal flying mode but heading straight down. It was straight. The only thing we saw on the ground outside there was a piece of a ... the tail of a lamp post. (Video)
                              high bandwidth : http://digipressetmp3.teaser.fr/uplo...Benedetto2.ram
                              low bandwidth : http://digipressetmp3.teaser.fr/uplo.../Benedetto.ram

                              Biggert, Judy
                              Members of Congress have been shuttled to the site to inspect the damage. Rep. Judy Biggert (R-Ill.) made the trip on Thursday. She saw remnants of the airplane. 'There was a seat from a plane, there was part of the tail and then there was a part of green metal, I could not tell what it was, a part of the outside of the plane,' she said. 'It smelled like it was still burning.'
                              Birdwell, Brian
                              LTC Brian Birdwell. He was just heading back down the hall to his office when the building exploded in front of him. The flash fire was immediate and the smoke was thick. The blast had thrown him down, giving him a concussion. He wanted to head down the hall toward the A ring...but because he couldn't see anything he had no idea which way to go and he didn't want to head in the wrong direction. (...) Once they stabilized Brian, they transferred him to George Washington Hospital where...the best, cutting edge burn doctor in the U.S. The doctor told him that had he not gone to Georgetown first, he probably would not have survived because of the jet fuel in his lungs.
                              http://www.aog.usma.edu/Class/1961/BirdwellLuncheon.htm
                              Birdwell, Brian
                              Down the hall from Yates, Lt. Col. Brian Birdwell, 40, had been at his desk in Room 2E486 since 6:30 a.m. (...) Birdwell walked out to the men's room in corridor 4, a move that saved his life. He had just taken three or four steps out of the bathroom when the building was rocked. "Bomb!" the Gulf War vet immediately thought as he was knocked down. When he stood up, he realized he was on fire. "Jesus, I'm coming to see you"
                              http://www.hjpa.org/morenews.html
                              Boger, Sean
                              Sean Boger, Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower chief - "I just looked up and I saw the big nose and the wings of the aircraft coming right at us and I just watched it hit the building." "It exploded. I fell to the ground and covered my head. I could actually hear the metal going through the building." The crew, Boger and Spc. Jacqueline Kidd, air traffic controller and training supervisor, prepared for President George W. Bush to arrive from Florida around 12:30 p.m.
                              http://www.dcmilitary.com/army/penta...s/12049-1.html

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                                #16
                                qual é que é o acontecimento nos states que nao tem uma teoria da conspiração?.... bolas a realidade por vezes é dificil de encarar!

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                                  #17
                                  Bouchoux, Donald R.
                                  Donald R. Bouchoux, 53, a retired Naval officer, a Great Falls resident, a Vietnam veteran and former commanding officer of a Navy fighter squadron, was driving west from Tysons Corner to the Pentagon for a 10am meeting. He wrote: At 9:40 a.m. I was driving down Washington Boulevard (Route 27) along the side of the Pentagon when the aircraft crossed about 200 yards [should be more than 150 yards from the impact] in front of me and impacted the side of the building. There was an enormous fireball, followed about two seconds later by debris raining down. The car moved about a foot to the right when the shock wave hit. I had what must have been an emergency oxygen bottle from the airplane go flying down across the front of my Explorer and then a second piece of jagged metal come down on the right side of the car. Washington Post, Sept. 20, 2001
                                  http://web.lexis-nexis.com...
                                  Bowman, John
                                  John Bowman, a retired Marine lieutenant colonel and a contractor, was in his office in Corridor Two near the main entrance to the south parking lot. "Everything was calm,' Bowman said. "Most people knew it was a bomb. Everyone evacuated smartly. We have a good sprinkling of military people who have been shot at."
                                  http://www.dcmilitary.com/army/penta...s/10380-1.html
                                  Braman, Chris
                                  Staff Sgt. Chris Braman : The lawn was littered with twisted pieces of aluminum. He saw one chunk painted with the letter ``A,'' another with a ``C.'' It didn't occur to Braman what the letters signified until a man in the crowd stooped to pick up one of the smaller metal shards. He examined it for a moment, then announced: ``This was a jet.''
                                  Bright, Mark
                                  Defense Protective Service officers were the first on the scene of the terrorist attack. One, Mark Bright, actually saw the plane hit the building. He had been manning the guard booth at the Mall Entrance to the building. "I saw the plane at the Navy Annex area," he said. "I knew it was going to strike the building because it was very, very low -- at the height of the street lights. It knocked a couple down." The plane would have been seconds from impact -- the annex is only a few hundred yards from the Pentagon. He said he heard the plane "power-up" just before it struck the Pentagon. "As soon as it struck the building I just called in an attack, because I knew it couldn't be accidental," Bright said. He jumped into his police cruiser and headed to the area.
                                  http://www.dcmilitary.com/marines/hendersonhall/6_39/local_news/10797-1.html
                                  Brown, Ervin
                                  At the Pentagon, employees had heard about or seen footage of the World Trade Centre attack when they felt their own building shake. Ervin Brown, who works at the Pentagon, said he saw pieces of what appeared to be small aircraft on the ground, and the part of the building by the heliport had collapsed.
                                  Brown, Rich
                                  Pentagon staff raced along a wooden pathway opposite the Pentagon building, all heading towards bridges that would take them across the Potomac River. Grown men ran at full pace. Rich Brown was sitting at his desk and "there was just a huge sound that shook the building for a second or two". "I don't know what's happened. I assume it's a co-ordinated terrorist attack."
                                  Flames, bombs strike at symbolic heart of a nation - smh.com.au
                                  Burgess, Lisa
                                  Lisa Burgess, a reporter for the Army newspaper Stars and Stripes, said she was walking in a corridor near the blast site and was thrown to the ground by the force of the blast.
                                  http://www.neurosis.org...
                                  Burgess, Lisa
                                  Lisa Burgess : Stars and Stripes reporter Lisa Burgess was walking on the Pentagon's innermost corridor, across the courtyard, when the incident happened. "I heard two loud booms - one large, one smaller, and the shock wave threw me against the wall," she said.Burgess, reporting by telephone from the scene at about 4 p.m., said that five hours after the blast, still no one was able to get into the building. After the first casualties were removed, no one was brought out of the building, either dead or alive.
                                  http://www.pstripes.com/01/sep01/ed091201i.html
                                  Campo
                                  It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane, Mr Campo said. "I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here."
                                  Pentagon eyewitness accounts | World news | The Guardian
                                  Cissell, James R.
                                  As former Cincinnatian James R. Cissell sat in traffic on a Virginia interstate by the Pentagon Tuesday morning, he saw the blur of a commercial jet and wondered why it was flying so low. ''Right about the time it was crossing over the highway, it kind of dawned on me what was happening,'' said Cissell, son of Hamilton County Clerk of Courts Jim Cissell. In the next blink of an eye, he realized he had a front-row seat to history, as the plane plowed into the Pentagon, sending a fireball exploding into the air and scattering debris - including a tire rim suspected of belonging to the airplane - past his car. (...) In the next seconds dozens of things flashed through his mind. ''I thought, 'This isn't really happening. That is a big plane.' Then I saw the faces of some of the passengers on board,'' Cissell said. While he remembers seeing the crash, Cissell remembers none of the sounds. ''It came in in a perfectly straight line,'' he said. ''It didn't slow down. I want to say it accelerated. It just shot straight in.''
                                  http://www.cincypost.com/attack/cissel091201.html
                                  Cleveland, Allen
                                  Allen Cleveland of Woodbridge Virginia looked out from a Metro train going to National Airport, to see a jet heading down toward the Pentagon. "I thought, 'There's no landing strip on that side of the subway tracks,' " Before he could process that thought, he saw "a huge mushroom cloud. A lady staThe lady next to me was in absolute hysterics."" . . a silver pasenger jet, mid sized"
                                  http://mfile.akamai.com/920/rm/thepo.../091101-5s.ram
                                  Cleveland, Allen
                                  Soon after the crash (Within 30 seconds of the crash) I witnessed a military cargo plane (Possibly a C130) fly over the crash site and circle the mushroom cloud. My brother inlaw also witnessed the same plane following the jet while he was on the HOV lanes in Springfield. He said that he saw a jetliner flying low over the tree tops near Seminary RD in Springfield, VA. and soon afterwards a military plane was seen flying right behind it. I think this was also a reason for the false threat of another plane about to crashwhich caused rescuers to have to evacuate for a short time after the initial crash. I have done my research onthis and according to time magazine it took 24 minutes before Norad was supposedly notified about this particuliar jet and fighters were scrambling to intercept at that time. Isn't it odd how there is Not a single mention of this aircraft in ANY of the articles written about this crash? Also if you had not noticed... There is not a single picture or live footage of the actual jet prior to its crash at the Pentagon. Nor is there any of the one that crashed in Pennsylvania. But if Anyone who rides the metro-rail knows, there are plenty of Video cameras all around National airport at the parking Garages and the high level security buildings found all around Crystal city. (3 of which I have personally found pointed directly towards crystal city which would have given a great line of site shot of that jet prior to the crash as well as any other plane which might have been following it. I personally believe that the government new full well that this was about to happen and they are hiding something a lot bigger than they are willing to let out. I was interviewed at Washingtonpost.com and gave them my full story, but they did not print it as I have told you. I also find it interesting that one of the planes engines in the pennsylvania crash was supposedly found 5 miles prior to the crash site (This information I'm unsure of). The only thing that I'm aware of that might cause that would be a heat seeking missle. A weapon which I am pretty familiar with form Ord.training. I'm not saying that the government new exactly what was about to happen, but I do believe that they are definitely hiding something here. Many of my friends in intelligence have said the same. I work in a Gov. building in DC., but my heart is right there with you and your team. I hope you and those who served with you are doing well. Take care.
                                  http://www.spooky8.com/reviews.htm
                                  Cook, Scott P.
                                  [We didn't know what kind of plane had hit the Pentagon, or where it had hit. Later, we were told that] it was a 757 out of Dulles, which had come up the river in back of our building, turned sharply over the Capitol, ran past the White House and the Washington Monument, up the river to Rosslyn, then dropped to treetop level and ran down Washington Boulevard to the Pentagon (...) As we watched the black plume gather strength, less than a minute after the explosion, we saw an odd sight that no one else has yet commented on. Directly in back of the plume, which would place it almost due west from our office, a four-engine propeller plane, which Ray later said resembled a C-130, started a steep decent towards the Pentagon. It was coming from an odd direction (planes don't go east-west in the area), and it was descending at a much steeper angle than most aircraft. Trailing a thin, diffuse black trail from its engines, the plane reached the Pentagon at a low altitude and made a sharp left turn, passing just north of the plume, and headed straight for the White House. All the while, I was sort of talking at it: "Who the hell are you? Where are you going? You're not headed for downtown!" Ray and Verle watched it with me, and I was convinced it was another attack. But right over the tidal basin, at an altitude of less than 1000 feet, it made another sharp left turn to the north and climbed rapidly. Soon it was gone, leaving only the thin black trail.
                                  www.scottpcook.com
                                  Corley
                                  "It was striking to me how little of the building was involved in the fire," said Dr. Corley, who has reviewed the Pentagon report. The fire, he said, "didn't spread and and trap other people in the building. "While 125 Pentagon workers and 59 passengers and crew members on the plane died, few if any of the workers who died were from outside the immediate impact zone."
                                  Lessons Drawn From Attack on Pentagon May Stay Secret - NYTimes.com
                                  Correa, Victor
                                  LTC Victor Correa work at the Pentagon. (...) LTC Victor Correa's office, what was the Army's Deputy Chief of Staff for Personnel, now the Army G-1, was in the path of the Boeing 757 that crashed into the Pentagon on a sunny fall morning. He was walking over to talk to a co-worker in the next cubicle when he was knocked down by the impact. "I saw a fireball come over my head," said Correa, an Active Guard Reservist now assigned to Joint Chiefs of Staff, J-5. "The fireball was coming like a wind-cloud of smoke trailing it. I also noticed to my right the windows going out and coming back in. The fireball came in and out quick - the speed of lightning. As it went back, it left a cloud of smoke and started dropping. At that time the fire system went up." Being knocked down turned out to be a life-saver. (...) "We thought it was some kind of explosion. That somehow someone got in here and planted bombs because we saw these holes."
                                  Home - Home (US Army Reserve)
                                  Creed, Dan
                                  He and two colleagues from Oracle software were stopped in a car near the Naval Annex, next to the Pentagon, when they saw the plane dive down and level off. "It was no more than 30 feet off the ground, and it was screaming. It was just screaming. It was nothing more than a guided missile at that point," Creed said. "I can still see the plane. I can still see it right now. It's just the most frightening thing in the world, going full speed, going full throttle, its wheels up," Creed recalls.
                                  http://www.ahwatukee.com/afn/communi...s/020906a.html
                                  Damoose
                                  Damoose said the worst part was leaving the Pentagon and walking along Fort Meyer Drive, a bike trail, "you could see pieces of the plane."
                                  washingtonpost.com
                                  Dave
                                  Near the Lincoln Memorial, Dave heard two booms, which sounded like the artillery salutes on the Mall on the Fourth of July, he said. It was likely the noise from a secondary blast at the Pentagon -
                                  gridlockmag.com
                                  Day Wayne T.
                                  For one employee with Wedge One's mechanical subcontractor John J. Kirlin Inc., Rockville MD, "lucky" is an understatement. "We had one guy who was standing, looking out the window and saw the plane when it was coming in. He was in front of one of the blast-resistant windows," says Kirlin President Wayne T. Day, who believes the window structure saved the man's life. According to Matt Hahr, Kirlin's senior project manager at the Pentagon, the employee "was thrown about 80 ft down the hall through the air. As he was traveling through the air, he says the ceiling was coming down from the concussion. He got thrown into a closet, the door slammed shut and the fireball went past him," recounts Hahr. "Jet fuel was on him and it irritated his eyes, but he didn't get burned. Then the fireball blew over and the sprinklers came on, and he was able to crawl out of the closet and get out of the building through the courtyard."
                                  http://www.designbuildmag.com/oct2001/pentagon1001.asp

                                  DeChiaro, Steve
                                  Instead of following the streams of people away from the Pentagon, Steve DeChiaro ran toward the smoke. As he reached the west side of the building he saw a light post bent in half. "But when I looked at the site, my brain could not resolve the fact that it was a plane because it only seemed like a small hole in the building," he said. "No tail. No wings. No nothing." He followed the emergency crews that had just arrived. He saw people hanging out of windows and others crawling from the demolished area. "These people were covered in what I thought was powder - I don't know anything about medicine or first aid, I'm an engineer - but it looked like powder," DeChiaro said. "Only later did I find out that it was their skin." Civilians and soldiers joined emergency crews who were rushing inside to pull out anyone they could. But shortly after 10 a.m. police yelled at people to get back. "Just as we're about to open the door, they start screaming, 'There's another inbound plane', " DeChiaro said. "At that moment, your thoughts are: 'I go in the building, I get killed, then I'm no help to anybody.' In hindsight, I think we should have gone back in that building." For nearly 15 minutes, they stood watching the Pentagon burn and periodically checked the sky for another plane. That plane never reached Washington but fell, instead, in rural Pennsylvania. Teams of two and three eventually were sent back in to find more victims. But as the day grew longer, the flow of the injured stopped.
                                  http://www.gomemphis.com/mca/america...300676,00.html
                                  Defina
                                  "The only way you could tell that an aircraft was inside was that we saw pieces of the nose gear. The devastation was horrific. It was obvious that some of the victims we found had no time to react. The distance the firefighters had to travel down corridors to reach the fires was a problem. With only a good 25 minutes of air in their SCBA bottles, to save air they left off their face pieces as they walked and took in a lot of smoke," Captain Defina said. Captain Defina was the shift commander [of an aircraft rescue firefighters crew.]
                                  http://www.nfpa.org/NFPAJournal/Onli...e_11.01.01.asp
                                  DiPaula, Michael
                                  Michael DiPaula 41, project coordinator Pentagon Renovation Team - He left a meeting in the Pentagon just minutes before the crash, looking for an electrician who didn't show, in a construction trailer less than 75 feet away. "Suddenly, an airplane roared into view, nearly shearing the roof off the trailer before slamming into the E ring. 'It sounded like a missile,' DiPaula recalls . . . Buried in debris and covered with airplane fuel, he was briefly listed by authorities as missing, but eventually crawled from the flaming debris and the shroud of black smoke unscathed.
                                  http://www.sunspot.net/search/bal-ar...1990.htmlstory (killtown)
                                  Dobbs, Mike
                                  Marine Corps officer Mike Dobbs was standing on one of the upper levels of the outer ring of the Pentagon looking out the window when he saw an American Airlines 737 twin-engine airliner strike the building. "It seemed to be almost coming in slow motion," he said later Tuesday. "I didn't actually feel it hit, but I saw it and then we all started running. They evacuated everybody around us."http://www.abqtrib.com/archives/news..._dcscene.shtml
                                  Dobbs, Mike
                                  "... we saw a plane coming toward us, for about 10 seconds ... It was like watching a train wreck. I was mesmerized. ... At first I thought it was trying to crash land, but it was coming in so deliberately, so level... Everyone said there was a deafening explosion, but with the adrenaline, we didn't hear it."St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Sept. 13, 2001 - Philip Dine
                                  http://web.lexisnexis.com ...
                                  http://www2.hawaii.edu/~julianr/lexisnexis/dobbs.txt
                                  Dougherty, Jill
                                  Jill Dougherty : It took your breath away, data analyst Jill Dougherty said of the vibration. It went right through you. I didn't hear anything. I just felt it.
                                  http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjo...2001EXTRA2.pdf
                                  Dubill, Bob
                                  " (...) when he saw a jetliner fly over the roadway. It filled his field of vision. The jet was 40-feet off the ground speeding toward the Pentagon. The wheels were up
                                  Cancelled
                                  Eberle, Bobby
                                  "Riding in a convertible ... I looked back and saw a jet airliner flying very low and very fast.
                                  http://www.gopusa.com/bobby/bobby_091201.shtml
                                  Eiden, Steve
                                  Steve Eiden, a truck driver, had picked up his cargo that Tuesday morning in Williamsburg, Va., and was en route to New York City and witnessed the aftermath. He took the Highway 95 loop in the area of the Pentagon and thought it odd to see a plane in restricted airspace, thinking to himself it was odd that it was flying so low. "You could almost see the people in the windows," he said as he watched the plane disappear behind a line of trees, followed by a tall plume of black smoke. Then he saw the Pentagon on fire, and an announcement came over the radio that the Pentagon had been hit.
                                  http://www.baxterbulletin.com/ads/ch...001/page2.html
                                  Elgas, Penny
                                  Traffic was at a standstill. I heard a rumble, looked out my driver's side window and realized that I was looking at the nose of an airplane coming straight at us from over the road (Columbia Pike) that runs perpendicular to the road I was on. The plane just appeared there- very low in the air, to the side of (and not much above) the CITGO gas station that I never knew was there. My first thought was "Oh My God, this must be World War III!" In that split second, my brain flooded with adrenaline and I watched everything play out in ultra slow motion, I saw the plane coming in slow motion toward my car and then it banked in the slightest turn in front of me, toward the heliport. In the nano-second that the plane was directly over the cars in front of my car, the plane seemed to be not more than 80 feet off the ground and about 4-5 car lengths in front of me. It was far enough in front of me that I saw the end of the wing closest to me and the underside of the other wing as that other wing rocked slightly toward the ground. I remember recognizing it as an American Airlines plane -- I could see the windows and the color stripes. And I remember thinking that it was just like planes in which I had flown many times but at that point it never occurred to me that this might be a plane with passengers. In my adrenaline-filled state of mind, I was overcome by my visual senses. The day had started out beautiful and sunny and I had driven to work with my car's sunroof open. I believe that I may have also had one or more car windows open because the traffic wasn't moving anyway. At the second that I saw the plane, my visual senses took over completely and I did not hear or feel anything -- not the roar of the plane, or wind force, or impact sounds. The plane seemed to be floating as if it were a paper glider and I watched in horror as it gently rocked and slowly glided straight into the Pentagon. At the point where the fuselage hit the wall, it seemed to simply melt into the building. I saw a smoke ring surround the fuselage as it made contact with the wall. It appeared as a smoke ring that encircled the fuselage at the point of contact and it seemed to be several feet thick. I later realized that it was probably the rubble of churning bits of the plane and concrete. The churning smoke ring started at the top of the fuselage and simultaneously wrapped down both the right and left sides of the fuselage to the underside, where the coiling rings crossed over each other and then coiled back up to the top. Then it started over again -- only this next time, I also saw fire, glowing fire in the smoke ring. At that point, the wings disappeared into the Pentagon. And then I saw an explosion and watched the tail of the plane slip into the building. It was here that I closed my eyes for a moment and when I looked back, the entire area was awash in thick black smoke.
                                  Supporting Material - September 11: Bearing Witness to History
                                  Elliott, Bruce
                                  Former ammunition plant official evacuated building moments before suicide airliner collision.Col. Bruce Elliott, former commander of the Iowa Army Ammunition Plant who was reassigned to the Pentagon in July, watched in horror Tuesday as a hijacked 757 airliner crashed into the nerve center of the U.S. military command. Elliott, in a phone interview Wednesday, said he had just left the Pentagon and was about to board a shuttle van in a south parking lot when he saw the plane approach and slam into the west side of the structure. "I looked to my left and saw the plane coming in," said Elliott, who watched it for several seconds. "It was banking and garnering speed. I felt it was headed for the Pentagon." (...) "It was like a kamikaze pilot. I felt it was going to ram the Pentagon," he said. He said the craft clipped a utility pole guide wire, which may have slowed it down a bit before it crashed into the building and burst into flames. (...) Elliott said the rubble was still smoldering Wednesday morning.
                                  http://www.thehawkeye.com/features/911/IdxThur.html
                                  Evey, Walker Lee
                                  The plane approached the Pentagon about six feet off the ground, clipping a light pole, a car antenna, a construction trailer and an emergency generator before slicing into the building, said Lee Evey, the manager of the Pentagon's ongoing billion-dollar renovation. The plane penetrated three of the Pentagon's five rings, but was probably stopped from going farther by hundreds of concrete columns. The plane peeled back as it entered, leavingpieces of the front of the plane near the outside of the building and pieces from the rear of the aircraft farther inside, Evey said. The floors just above the impact remained intact for about 35 minutes after the crash, allowing many people in those offices to escape, Evey said
                                  http://detnews.com/2001/nation/0110/...ion-312016.htm

                                  Evey, Walker Lee
                                  Internally, the Wedge One project included: complete demolition of existing facilities; significant abatement of hazardous materials (most notably, 28 million lbs. of asbestos-contaminated material was removed); installation of all new electrical, mechanical, plumbing and telecommunication systems within the existing floorplan; structural steel reinforcement; and replacement of all 1,282 windows in the section, including 386 blast-resistant units on the outermost "E Ring" and innermost "A Ring" of the building. All-new office space was created with an open space plan aimed at enhancing flexibility (...) Amazingly, the plane pushed through the outermost "E Ring", and drove deep into the interior, its nose coming to rest just inside the "C Ring."
                                  http://www.designbuildmag.com/oct2001/pentagon1001.asp

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                                    #18
                                    Pronto, quem acredita em teorias da conspiração é que são estupidos.....alguns factos contrariam a conspiração claro, mas outros...

                                    Ah, e tambem ha quem acredite que D.Sebastião vai regressar numa manhã de nevoeiro.

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                                      #19
                                      Originalmente Colocado por Joana1984 Ver Post
                                      Eu acredito em factos concretos - neste caso houve atentados terroristas, no Pentagono foram encontrados vestígios de um avião, nas Torres viram-se os aviões a embater, a Al-Qaeda reivindica os atentados, chegaram a morrer judeus neste atentado (o que contraria a versão dos judeus terem sido avisados), etc..... . Queres mais provas?
                                      As provas que tu tens valem tanto como as outras.

                                      Não te esqueças que há muita coisa que nunca se virá a saber. Ou agora ficamos todos atrás do teclado a tentar adivinhar os bastidores ?

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                                        #20
                                        Umas das coisas que me faz confusão ainda, são duas torres projetadas para suportar toneladas de força dos ventos e levar com um avião nos últimos andares e se desmoronarem como um castelo de cartas..
                                        Mas tb o meu conhecimento de engenharia civil é pouco.

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                                          #21
                                          Que anedota de filme ...

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                                            #22
                                            Originalmente Colocado por SPV Ver Post
                                            Que anedota de filme ...
                                            Ainda bem que te divertiu !

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                                              #23
                                              Originalmente Colocado por Gugul Ver Post
                                              Ainda bem que te divertiu !
                                              Estás muito preocupado em tentar fazer com que todos acreditem na tua opinião. Deixa lá cada um ter a sua opinião.

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                                                #24
                                                Originalmente Colocado por oigreS Ver Post
                                                Umas das coisas que me faz confusão ainda, são duas torres projetadas para suportar toneladas de força dos ventos e levar com um avião nos últimos andares e se desmoronarem como um castelo de cartas..
                                                Mas tb o meu conhecimento de engenharia civil é pouco.
                                                Mais incrivel é que os supostos traidores/conspiradores sabiam que um dos aviões ia atingir as torres mais abaixo que o outro e que essa torre seria a primeira a cair, mesmo sendo a 2ª a receber o embate do avião!

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                                                  #25
                                                  Todas essas teorias já foram "desmascaradas"... várias vezes. Se se dessem ao trabalho de quando postam um documentário que defende uma teoria, procurassem outro que a desmente, é que faziam bem.
                                                  Entendo a tendência para ser arrastado para essas teorias de conspiração, mas no fundo, tudo bem espremido... não se fica com conteúdo factual nenhum! São sempre teorias sem peso argumental bem sustentado.
                                                  O mais infeliz dessas teorias... que incidem no pentágono, é que não vêem as marcas das asas... isto, supondo que a estrutura, depois de um impacto e explosões daquela magnitude, se manteria firme, com o perfil do avião! Quer dizer... ridículo! Como já explicaram... os andares acima, do espaço deixado aberto pelas asas, colapsaram naturalmente. Só mesmo um ingénuo para acreditar que depois deum impacto e explosões o edificio manteria o perfil do impacto!
                                                  Depois a questão de não o verem nas imagens... quando a câmara filmava com espaçamento de frames, e à velocidade do avião...
                                                  Nestas coisas... quem acredita nestas teorias, faz-lo por que quer e o deseja. Faz-lo contra a lógica e contra os factos! E por mais que os factos e a realidade os desminta... eles insistem e chegam a dizer que tais coisas são mais conspirações! E acredito plenamente que para estas pessoas... a realidade seja um ficção e uma conspiração. Afinal... devemos todos fazer parte de um "Matrix"!

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                                                    #26
                                                    Tambem existem pessoas que acreditam que o homem nunca foi à Lua ... cabe a cada pessoa e aos seus neuronios decidir em quem acreditar.

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                                                      #27
                                                      Originalmente Colocado por EscapeLivre Ver Post
                                                      Pronto, quem acredita em teorias da conspiração é que são estupidos.....alguns factos contrariam a conspiração claro, mas outros...

                                                      Ah, e tambem ha quem acredite que D.Sebastião vai regressar numa manhã de nevoeiro.
                                                      No geral não sei, mas neste caso têm que ser pessoas muito estúpidas!

                                                      Que os americanos soubessem de algo, que iria haver um atentado, que havia terroristas nos EUA, etc não punha as mãos no fogo, agora dizer que não foram aviões que bateram, que meteram explosivos nas torres, que o voo 911 não existiu... só posso atribuir mesmo à estupidez ou falta de inteligência!

                                                      No âmbito de atentados com aviões deu ontem uma reportagem francesa na TVI nos aeroportos franceses... e no mínimo põe o pessoal a pensar! Só não se entra com uma bomba atómica para um avião de resto entra-se com tudo o que se quiser! Armas, granadas, etc, visto que o controlo das pessoas que lá trabalham é mínimo, incluindo em voos que vão para os EUA.

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                                                        #28
                                                        Originalmente Colocado por oigreS Ver Post
                                                        Umas das coisas que me faz confusão ainda, são duas torres projetadas para suportar toneladas de força dos ventos e levar com um avião nos últimos andares e se desmoronarem como um castelo de cartas..
                                                        Mas tb o meu conhecimento de engenharia civil é pouco.
                                                        Já foi explicado que elas foram projectadas para suportar o impacto de aviões... de pequeno porte, como avionetas e helicópteros.
                                                        O impacto de um avião daqueles, com combustível a arder e todo o restante material do interior dos edifícios... foi o que fragilizou a estrutura! Imaginas a temperatura que estaria como resultado daquele incêndio?
                                                        O resto... foi apenas o resultado do acidente e da física!

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                                                          #29
                                                          Originalmente Colocado por paulofer Ver Post
                                                          No geral não sei, mas neste caso têm que ser pessoas muito estúpidas!

                                                          Que os americanos soubessem de algo, que iria haver um atentado, que havia terroristas nos EUA, etc não punha as mãos no fogo, agora dizer que não foram aviões que bateram, que meteram explosivos nas torres, que o voo 911 não existiu... só posso atribuir mesmo à estupidez ou falta de inteligência!

                                                          No âmbito de atentados com aviões deu ontem uma reportagem francesa na TVI nos aeroportos franceses... e no mínimo põe o pessoal a pensar! Só não se entra com uma bomba atómica para um avião de resto entra-se com tudo o que se quiser! Armas, granadas, etc, visto que o controlo das pessoas que lá trabalham é mínimo, incluindo em voos que vão para os EUA.
                                                          Para quem chama estupidos a outros, estas a ser muito estupido.
                                                          Quem disse que não foram aviões que bateram nas torres?

                                                          Se gostas de falar mal, ao menos vê 1º o filme, por mais absurdo que o aches .

                                                          É preciso mesmo ser idiota, começar a chamar nomes e ainda por cima não sabe porquê LOLOLOLOL

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                                                            #30
                                                            Originalmente Colocado por DarkVeill Ver Post
                                                            Já foi explicado que elas foram projectadas para suportar o impacto de aviões... de pequeno porte, como avionetas e helicópteros.
                                                            O impacto de um avião daqueles, com combustível a arder e todo o restante material do interior dos edifícios... foi o que fragilizou a estrutura! Imaginas a temperatura que estaria como resultado daquele incêndio?
                                                            O resto... foi apenas o resultado do acidente e da física!
                                                            Pois, mas também já foi explicado porque essa teoria está errada ;)

                                                            O Filme é grande, mas falar sem ouvir as 2 partes....

                                                            Além da conhecida historia dos USA, que adoram provocar incidentes para justificar GUERRAS.

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