Mclaren BMW V12 F1 LM [Gordon Murray developing a supercar ‘beyond the F1’]

[BrunoDias]

quais são mesmo os custos de manutenção??

[Echos]

YouTube - McLaren F1 GTR in Bahrain <- Orgásmico

É a descrição certa para o que ouvi, que loucura

[Cobra]

Uma das analises mais completas ao Mac

YouTube - Mc Laren F1
Top Gear -- Tiff

(não sei se já está aí para cima)

[leblanc]

The Car's the Star - McLaren F1 - Part 1

The Car's the Star - McLaren F1 - Part 2

The Car's the Star - McLaren F1 - Part 3

The Car's the Star - McLaren F1 - Part 4

McLaren F1 - Discovery Channel - Ultimate Cars

Mclaren GTR F1 sound

Jaylenosgarage - McLaren F1

[JoaoPestana]

Porra só carbono...

Sera que aquilo nao range muito? Como o barulho do motor nao se deve ouvir nada mas pronto..

Adorava ganhar uma dor de costas naquele banquinho...

sabes, o F1 ja oferece uns auscultadores com intercomunicador para as pessoas dentro do carro comunicarem umas com as outras, porque o rosnar do motor nao deixa ouvir mais nada :D

[BrunoDias]

mas como é o carro em custos de manutenção??
é que se me sair o euromilhões sou homem para ver se compro 1

[kpt]

mas como é o carro em custos de manutenção??
é que se me sair o euromilhões sou homem para ver se compro 1

1 milhao para o carro, 1 milhao para a manutencao, 1 euromilhoes chega

a minha curiosidade é, alem da questão monetária, qual é a dificuldade de comprar um carro destes, MacF1 não é propriamente um carro que se encontre à venda no standvirtual

[BrunoDias]

1 milhao para o carro, 1 milhao para a manutencao, 1 euromilhoes chega

a minha curiosidade é, alem da questão monetária, qual é a dificuldade de comprar um carro destes, MacF1 não é propriamente um carro que se encontre à venda no standvirtual

creio que se ve a venda mas ai por 2 milhões
1milhão de manutenção por ano????

[Echos]

Acredito que a manutenção para uns 5000km/ano deve ser na ordem dos 50.000€


Nada que um Euro-Milhões não pague com facilidade

[BrunoDias]

e no fundo não acredito que alguem faça muitos kms por ano com este tipo de carro

[leblanc]

An F1 will need a new clutch every 3,000 to 6,000 miles, at a cool $12,000. Its $25,000 fuel cell needs replacing every five years. A starter motor replacement is a 90–hour job, as the engine has to be removed, and that runs $12,000. Should you break the transverse transaxle, expect a $100k repair bill.

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The specialist: Dean Lanzante

The man who services McLarens for a living...


‘It’s just a car. Mechanically it’s very straightforward, almost basic. The brakes and steering aren’t power assisted and there’s no traction control. Everyone talks about it in hushed tones as being one of the ultimate supercars but it’s not really that complicated.'

Brave words, but Dean Lanzante can walk the talk. Lanzante Limited has looked after maybe 15 McLaren F1s since the car’s launch, and it’s the only company apart from McLaren itself that has this level of experience. Yet it charges a modest £38 per hour labour.

‘We have good facilities, but we don’t have dollybirds sitting outside the workshop manning a reception desk,’ explains Dean. ‘And while our hourly rate is certainly very modest for, say, rebuilding an engine, the same rate applies if, for example, we’re transporting a car back from the Nürburgring. It all averages out to a bill that’s acceptable for the customer yet allows us to go the extra mile in making sure a car is properly presented.’

That casual mention of the ’Ring is a clue to Lanzante’s main focus, which is motor sport. The company was founded by Dean’s father Paul (who had previously worked at Maranello Concessionaires and for Tyrrell) almost 30 years ago, and the F1 connection goes back to 1995, when the Lanzante-prepped Veno Clinic GTR won outright at Le Mans.

‘We don’t actually deal with many road cars,’ explains Dean. ‘We only really got involved when a customer asked us if we could have a go at sorting out a gearbox problem. We said OK, not knowing quite what to expect, and found it was relatively simple to repair. As I said earlier, the F1 is not an especially complicated car.

‘The one big job on the F1 is changing the fuel tank. It’s a bag tank and it has to be replaced every five years, for insurance reasons. That means removing the rear suspension, taking the engine and ’box out, and disconnecting the air conditioning, so it all adds up to a big bill: we usually estimate 100 hours labour, plus nearly four grand for the tank itself.

‘But a lot of those 100 hours will be spent in attending to other tasks while the engine is out. For example, we’ll usually give the clutch a check over. The clutch will typically need a service every 6000 miles; it’s a multi-plate carbon unit and it might last less than that if the car is regularly driven hard. Equally, it may just need shimming to be given a new lease of life. We haven’t changed the clutch in the ex-Ray Bellm car since 1996.

‘Otherwise there are no real nasties. The engine is chain driven, so the only belts are for the water pump and alternator, both of which can be changed in situ – just about. It uses BMW M3 plugs, which aren’t cheap but are easy to replace; if an F1 starts to run a bit rough, changing the plugs will often cure it. These are very reliable engines.’

All very positive, but while F1 ownership may not be horrendously expensive, it is not cheap either. A flick through some recent invoices reveals that a set of brake pads costs £236 – they have to be machined to fit the calipers – and a replacement windscreen is £2500. The same money buys the lower section of a front bumper, remade to original spec by Lanzante’s carbonfibre specialist, while a pair of rear wishbones is priced at £3000. Not outrageous for bespoke items, mind you.

Fabricating stuff from scratch comes as second nature for Lanzante’s six mechanics, who all have experience in various motor sport disciplines. The F1 is just one of the cars they look after – when Octane visited, a Ferrari 166MM and the GT40 pedalled by Adrian Newey were in the shop. As Dean sums up without a hint of boastfulness: ‘Crosthwaite & Gardiner rebuild Auto Unions, so I think we can manage an F1…

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Resumindo:

- O F1 necessita de uma nova embraiagem a cada 5000 a 10000km ($12,000);
- Substituir tanque combustível de 5 em 5 anos (necessário retirar motor,suspensão,caixa e desligar ar condicionado pelo menos 100horas)($ 25.000);
- Para substituir o Motor de arranque é necessário retirar o motor,logo cerca de 90 horas de trabalho ($12,000);
- Caso de partir caixa de velocidades ($100k);
- Um conjunto de pastilhas de travões custa £ 236 (têm de ser maquinados para caberem);
- Substituição para brisas é de £ 2500;
- O mesmo dinheiro compra a secção inferior de um pára-choques dianteiro;
- Um par de braços suspensão traseira cerca de £3000;
- Preço de mão-de-obra/hora cerca £38 (Lanzante Limited).

[rmp]

Jalopnik - Bugatti Veyron 16.4 or McLaren F1? - 16.4

[Echos]

Um preço justo para quem pode e quer ter um "Formula 1" de estrada que oferece provavelmente a maior sensação de exclusividade e prazer de condução possíveis

[leblanc]

McLaren F1 2010 Upgrade Package

(clicar na imagem para ver ficheiro pdf)

Potencia: 700 Cv

Peso: 1077 Kg




BMW M POWER

[LEONFR]

Melhorar o que já de si é uma obra de arte

Para mim, continua a ser O carro de sonho, mesmo tendo em conta a idade do projecto

[leblanc]

Car: Gordon Murray developing a supercar ‘beyond the F1’

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03 September 2009 00:01

Gordon Murray might be working flat out on his T25 city car family, as reported last week by CAR Online – but he’s also planning a successor to the landmark McLaren F1. The F1 remains a glittering high point on Murray’s CV and he harbours ambitions to redraw the supercar landscape with a radical sports car shaped by refreshingly new thinking.
‘It will be the world’s next F1,’ Murray told CAR exclusively. He plans to start work in earnest on his final supercar once a handful of iStream licences are sold. This iStream technology is the new, more efficient way of building cars that will underpin his T25 city cars.

Gordon Murray’s new supercar: more details

How can anyone top the McLaren F1? Many say it’s not possible, but if anyone can, one of its original architects can. Murray claims his new supercar will offer the ultimate in driver appeal and engineering exquisiteness, and still be highly expensive and exclusive.
‘However, it will be a dramatic step backward in power and top speed,’ he vowed. And that’s music to CAR’s ears. Aren’t we all fed up with ever-spiralling power and mph figures? We know you’re as keen as us to see a retreat to proper engineering solutions rather than more of everything.
So is Gordon Murray’s successor to the McLaren F1 going after Ferrari and Lamborghini?
‘I will do one more supercar – but it’ll be a new breed,’ Murray revealed exclusively to us. ‘The way supercars are done right now, they’ve got no future at all.’
He has yet to target precise weight, power and capacity targets, but Murray promises it will be much lighter and smaller yet more involving for the driver than the iconic F1.
Murray’s supercar blueprint has evolved from the P8, the stillborn successor to the F1 he designed in his last year with McLaren. ‘The P8 was going to be a really funky ultra-lightweight sort of F2, with much more emphasis on handling and excitement,’ he said.
Since leaving McLaren, the proposed supercar has ‘taken several steps forward,’ according to Murray. He disclosed the new supercar would not be built on the same iStream principles as the T25.

McLaren’s new P11 supercar ‘bound to disappoint’

Murray also dismissed the new McLaren P11 supercar as not that revolutionary. ‘It’s bound to disappoint,’ said the F1’s designer. ‘There’s no point in trying to outdo the F1, they’ll never do it. The world has moved on and anyone who thinks the market for Gallardo-type cars is going to bounce back to levels of two or three years ago is dreaming.’
While insisting he’s had no special access to the P11 project, he still has strong opinions on the new McLaren that will finally be shown in the next few days. ‘From what I’ve heard, McLaren has gone back to producing a big car with a heavy engine. People will inevitably see it as a successor to the F1 but I can’t see any way in which people aren’t going to be disappointed. They’ve just taken the wrong route for it. That’s a shame.’

[leblanc]

[kpt]

ha um famoso que está a vender um McF1, não me lembro o nome, por isso quem quiser comprar um, que aproveite

[DiogoSilva]

Tão.... Tão.... Tão.... Perfeito

[crash]

Recuperando das profundezas este tópico...


Engine Extraction: McLaren F1 | Video | Jay Lenos Garage | NBC