Jeep Cherokee 2013

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Jeep Cherokee Limited 2.0 JTDm-2 170 4x4 UK first drive review

Coarse and unresponsive, poorly engineered and executed. A premium SUV? Pull the other one

What is it?

A second chance for the new Jeep Cherokee. Our full road test on the car was about as bristling with praise for this troubled compact SUV as you’d expect of a two and a half star verdict.

Among very few causes for hope was the more powerful diesel version, available exclusively with a nine-speed ZF automatic transmission, which is the car under inspection here.

It's a good two seconds quicker to 60mph than the 138bhp manual version and capable of towing half a tonne more on a braked trailer. It's also fitted with no fewer than four overdrive ratios for economical cruising.

So the Cherokee JTDm-2 170 automatic certainly appears to present stiffer competition to other premium SUVs. But it isn’t. In fact, it’s got greater failings than the cheaper, slower manual.


What is it like?

A lack of apparent substance and thoroughness in the car’s engineering is its chief failing. The 168bhp diesel is every bit as clattery and coarse as the cheaper oil-burner and offers little more overtaking pace on the road. It’s short on torque compared with most of its competition, and it feels like it.

The first time you press the brake pedal, you’ll also realise that Jeep’s right-hand drive conversion has left the brake servo on the opposite side of the car. It's connected to the pedal by a steel bar that crosses the bulkhead, which thuds in a dull fashion every time you release the pedal, while the servo’s hisses and shudders can clearly be heard.

Hardly the stuff of premium-brand meticulousness, that, although it’s a particular ‘Heath Robinson’ solution still used in other Fiat Group products, among them the two-pedal, right-hand-drive Fiat 500.

With the exception of marginally improved motorway economy, the nine-speed transmission singularly fails to enhance the Cherokee’s performance. The powertrain is slow to auto-restart, slow to kick down, unresponsive in manual mode, indecisive when left in D and delivers hurried gearchanges with all the smoothness of an angry van driver.

Hold the car stationary on the aforementioned brake pedal and you can also feel that the driveline doesn’t fully disengage, but strains gently against the driveshafts, making the body shimmy and shake with every few crank revolutions.

The car’s other dynamic shortcomings are shared with the cheaper version. Its steering feels leaden, inert and full of unpleasant friction, the handling is competent but soft and remote and the ride is quiet but poorly resolved, with lots of initial body movement and poor rebound damping. This is dynamic deportment done as was common in 4x4s two decades ago – and not done well even by that mark.

Inside the cabin the Cherokee is fairly roomy, comes with plenty of kit and is adequately well appointed and constructed. Its off-road capability is far from exceptional, though; there’s just 157mm of ground clearance here, which is barely enough to cope with a rutted track.

Should I buy one?

Do whatever it takes to avoid one. While the Cherokee makes a mediocre car at £30,000, it’s downright poor at £35,000.

There isn’t a car like it that delivers a less refined or competitive powertrain, or a less well mannered driving experience – in return, let’s not forget, for a proper premium SUV price.

If Jeep expects to be taken seriously by buyers who can afford a Land Rover, BMW, Audi or Mercedes-Benz, it simply must do better

Jeep Cherokee Limited 2.0 JTDm-2 170 4x4 Automatic
Price £35,695; 0-62mph 10.3sec; Top speed 119mph; Economy 48.7mpg; CO2 154g/km; Kerb weight 1878kg; Engine 4 cyls, 1956cc, turbodiesel; Power 168bhp at 4000rpm; Torque 258lb ft at 1750rpm; Gearbox 9-spd automatic

Pontuação: 1.5 / 5

Alguém acordou com os pés de fora...

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Como andam as vendas do Cherokee, alguém sabe?

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Como andam as vendas do Cherokee, alguém sabe?

Nos EUA vende como pipocas e é um dos principais responsáveis pelo aumento substancial de vendas da marca.
AS vendas mensais andam pelas 13-15 mil unidades.
No resto do mundo não faço a minima. Mas em todas as tabelas de vendas que vou espreitando, a Jeep está sempre entre as que mais estão a subir este ano. Apesar de em alguns mercados isso não significar muito, pois está-se a partir de um número de vendas muito baixo.

Desde que faça sucesso na América do Norte, e na China (o Cherokee vai ser produzido localmente), acho que dá para cumprir todos os objectivos a que se propuseram com o modelo.

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Obrigado, crash

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Fotos espia do facelift

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Fotos espia do facelift

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Esperemos que os extremos fiquem melhor resolvidos desta vez.
Sendo um facelift, em que não existem (geralmente) alterações estruturais, infelizmente as óticas traseiras vão continuar desconfortavelmente lá em cima.

Para quem saiba responder... Porque é que o bloco do 2.2 Mjet deste modelo é em ferro e o no Giulia tem o bloco em alumínio?
Não compensaria mais ter apenas um bloco?

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Do site Allpar

Vão mudar os faróis

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Cherokee facelift

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Pois... lá se vai a frente! E acho muito bem.
O Cherokee é um alienígena no meio dos outros Jeep.
Será que o orçamento dá para também alterar a traseira, colocando as ópticas mais abaixo?

[CONSPIRACY MODE ON]
Continuo a achar que este Cherokee nasceu como Alfa Romeo, e tal como o substituto inicial do 159 que era para ser FWD, foi descartado e reaproveitado para ser um Jeep.
Só assim se explica o ser tão "ao lado" de tudo o que é Jeep, a nível visual.
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Um render no Allpar.



Este teaser de um insider da FCA que mostra que os faróis traseiros também foram modificados. E com a nova posição da matrícula deve resultar melhor.
Para comparação:


Vai ficar melhor mas também não esperes grandes milagres...

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