Tópico dos Pneus

Quando fui trocar pneus no meu carro (205/55 r16 V) os que montaram foram os primacy 3. O mecânico disse me que os primacy 3 eram os novos primacy hp.
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Sim, foi o que eu disse. Os 3 já substituíram os HP há uns 3/4 anos mas, como disse, há dias fiquei surpreendido por a 5008 (Dez/2015) da minha vizinha ter montados HP de origem. Tenho que confirmar se é alguma medida mais esquisita.
 
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Que mais não é, do que os resultados colocados umas páginas atrás... [;)]

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2016 ADAC Tyre Test - 185/65 R15







Much like the
225/45 R17 test ADAC published at the same time, the ADAC 185/65 R15 tyre test looks at sixteen premium and mid range tyres, but this time has selected tyres intended to be fitted to smaller town and city cars.The biggest surprise of the test was this time delivered by Vredestein, with the Sportrac 5 dominating the test, and beating the wet weather master Continental Premium Contact 5 in the wet tests. The Vredestein must have gone through a life cycle update, as in 2015 the best result it could manage was fifth overall, and over placed near the bottom of the tests it took part in.
The Dunlop and Goodyear combination of closely matched premium touring tyres once again traded blows in the tests to finish nearly identically overall in third and fourth places, while Hankook rounded out the top five with another balanced performance.

Nokian once again had a good result in sixth place, and Kumho finally had a decent test result, finishing seventh with no real negative qualities of the Eco Wing ES01.

Infinity will be proud they managed to beat Michelin, with the premium French brand pushing the balance between wet grip and wear too far towards wear for the ADAC testers, and Bridgestone struggled to balance wet and dry grip, scoring too highly in the dry, like Michelin losing points in the heavily weighted wet testing.

Full details below, if you have any questions or comments please feel free to leave them at the end of the page.

Results

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[TD]1st: Vredestein Sportrac 5
Total: 37.6 / Dry: 8.4 / Wet: 8 / Rolling Resistance: 7.8 / Noise: 5.4 / Wear: 8
Positive: Very balanced summer tyre with top marks on wet roads, very good in the dry
Negative: None mentioned

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[TD]2nd: Continental Premium Contact 5
Total: 37.4 / Dry: 8.8 / Wet: 7.4 / Rolling Resistance: 8 / Noise: 5.2 / Wear: 8
Positive: Very balanced tyre with top marks in the dry
Negative: None mentioned

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[TD]3rd: Dunlop Sport BluResponse
Total: 37.2 / Dry: 8.6 / Wet: 7.4 / Rolling Resistance: 8.4 / Noise: 4.8 / Wear: 8
Positive: Very balanced tyre, particularly good on dry roads, also strong in the wet and low fuel consumption
Negative: None mentioned

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[TD]4th: Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance
Total: 35.8 / Dry: 8 / Wet: 7.8 / Rolling Resistance: 7.8 / Noise: 4.2 / Wear: 8
Positive: Very balanced tyre, strong in the wet and dry
Negative: None mentioned

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[TD]5th: Hankook K425 Kinergy Eco
Total: 37 / Dry: 8.6 / Wet: 7.6 / Rolling Resistance: 8 / Noise: 5.8 / Wear: 7
Positive: Very balanced, particularly good in the dry
Negative: None mentioned

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[TD]6th: Nokian Line
Total: 36.2 / Dry: 8.6 / Wet: 7.4 / Rolling Resistance: 8.4 / Noise: 4.8 / Wear: 7
Positive: Very balanced, particularly good in the dry, low fuel consumption
Negative: None mentioned

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[TD]7th: Kumho Ecowing ES01 KH27
Total: 35.8 / Dry: 8.2 / Wet: 7.2 / Rolling Resistance: 7.8 / Noise: 5.6 / Wear: 7
Positive: Very balanced summer tyre, strong in the dry
Negative: None mentioned

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[TD]8th: Sava intensa hp
Total: 34 / Dry: 6.6 / Wet: 7.6 / Rolling Resistance: 7.6 / Noise: 4.2 / Wear: 8
Positive: Strong in the wet
Negative: A slight weakness in the dry

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[TD]9th: Infinity Ecosis
Total: 34.6 / Dry: 6.8 / Wet: 6.4 / Rolling Resistance: 7.4 / Noise: 7 / Wear: 7
Positive: low noise
Negative: A slight weakness in the wet and dry

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[TD]10th: Michelin Energy Saver Plus
Total: 38 / Dry: 7.8 / Wet: 6.4 / Rolling Resistance: 8.8 / Noise: 5 / Wear: 10
Positive: Top marks for fuel consumption and wear, good in the dry
Negative: A slight weakness in the wet

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[TD]11th: Barum Brillantis 2
Total: 35.2 / Dry: 7 / Wet: 6 / Rolling Resistance: 7.6 / Noise: 5.6 / Wear: 9
Positive: Low wear
Negative: Weak in the wet

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[TD]12th: Bridgestone Turanza T001
Total: 38 / Dry: 8.8 / Wet: 6 / Rolling Resistance: 8.6 / Noise: 5.6 / Wear: 9
Positive: Top marks in the dry, low fuel consumption
Negative: Weak in the wet

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[TD]13th: Nexen N Blue HD Plus
Total: 35.2 / Dry: 8.8 / Wet: 5.8 / Rolling Resistance: 8.2 / Noise: 4.4 / Wear: 8
Positive: Top marks in the dry
Negative: Weak in the wet

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[TD]14th: Semperit Comfort Life 2
Total: 34.4 / Dry: 7.8 / Wet: 5.6 / Rolling Resistance: 7.8 / Noise: 4.2 / Wear: 9
Positive: Low wear
Negative: Weak in the wet

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[TD]15th: Nankang Green Sport Eco 2
Total: 32.2 / Dry: 7.2 / Wet: 4.4 / Rolling Resistance: 7.2 / Noise: 5.4 / Wear: 8
Positive: None mentioned
Negative: Weak in the wet, high fuel consumption

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[TD]16th: GT Radial Champiro VP1
Total: 28.6 / Dry: 5.6 / Wet: 1 / Rolling Resistance: 7.6 / Noise: 5.4 / Wear: 9
Positive: Low wear
Negative: Very weak in the wet and dry

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in: http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2016-ADAC-Tyre-Test-185-65-R15.htm





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2016 ADAC Tyre Test - 225/45 R17


The 2016 ADAC 225/45 R17 summer tyre test is a classic ADAC by-the-numbers tyre test, with the results driven from data rather than subjective scoring.


Of the sixteen tyres tested, at least three patterns have already been replaced, with the Michelin Pilot Sport 3, Toyo Proxes T1 Sport and GT Radial Champiro HPY already superseded by the Michelin Pilot Sport 4,Toyo Proxes T1 Sport+ and GT Radial Sport Active in late 2015.


Goodyear and Dunlop are also noticeably absent from this test, with the newly released Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3 and Dunlop Sport Maxx RT2 missing.


So what can we learn from this test with a number of the latest tyres missing?


Continental still reign supreme with the Continental Sport Contact 5. It would have been interesting to see this tyre tested against the new Dunlop, Goodyear and Michelin, but it will be a strong package to beat now Continental seem to be scoring well in the wear tests.


The second place ESA Tecar Spirit 5 UHP isn't available in the UK, but the Tecar brand seems to be offering consistently strong tyres in the mid range sector, and will be one we'll be look into a little more in 2016.


With Goodyear and Dunlop missing, Pirelli and Vredestein have strong showings in third and fourth places respectively, with the Vorti continuing its theme of being a very good dry weather tyre, finishing joint top in the dry tests with Yokohama.


Uniroyal will be disappointed to have finished with an average wet score and ninth place overall, and it was a disappointing result for Michelin, even taking into account the fact the Pilot Sport 3 has been replaced. Wear, usually one of Michelins strengths, scored particularly poorly, but we're still confused as how the French tyre finished so far down the order with such a strong dry and wet result.


There's nothing too exciting to report in the bottom third of the table, the Fulda Sport Control is an old tyre now and in need of an update, whereas GT Radial will be happy to have beaten Maxxis with an old pattern.


The full results are below, feel free to leave any comments or questions at the bottom of the page. You can find the185/65 R15 version of the test here.




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[TD]Continental Sport Contact 5
Vredestein Ultrac Vorti
Yokohama Advan Sport V105[/TD]
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[TD]Continental Sport Contact 5[/TD]
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1st: Continental Sport Contact 5
Total: 39 / Dry: 9.6 / Wet: 8.2 / Comfort: 5.4 / Rolling Resistance: 7.8 / Wear: 8
Positive: Very balanced summer tire with top marks on wet and dry roads
Negative: None mentioned


2nd: ESA Tecar Spirit 5 UHP
Total: 38.2 / Dry: 8.6 / Wet: 7 / Comfort: 5.8 / Rolling Resistance: 9.4 / Wear: 7.4
Positive: Very balanced with top marks in fuel consumption, good in the wet and dry
Negative: None mentioned


3rd: Pirelli P Zero
Total: 37.2 / Dry: 8.2 / Wet: 8 / Comfort: 5.8 / Rolling Resistance: 7.8 / Wear: 7.4
Positive: Very balanced tyre, good in the wet and dry
Negative: None mentioned


4th: Vredestein Ultrac Vorti
Total: 36.8 / Dry: 9.6 / Wet: 7 / Comfort: 5.8 / Rolling Resistance: 7 / Wear: 7.4
Positive: Very balanced summer tyre, particularly good int he dry
Negative: None mentioned


5th: Hankook Ventus S1 evo2
Total: 36.2 / Dry: 8.4 / Wet: 6.8 / Comfort: 5.4 / Rolling Resistance: 8.2 / Wear: 7.4
Positive: Good in the dry, relatively low fuel consumption
Negative: A little weak in the wet compared to the best on test


6th: Sava intensa uhp
Total: 38 / Dry: 7.6 / Wet: 6.8 / Comfort: 6 / Rolling Resistance: 7.2 / Wear: 10.4
Positive: Top marks in wear
Negative: A little weak in the wet compared to the best on test


7th: Nokian zLine
Total: 34.6 / Dry: 7.6 / Wet: 6.6 / Comfort: 5 / Rolling Resistance: 8 / Wear: 7.4
Positive: Low fuel consumption
Negative: A little weak in the wet compared to the best on test


8th: Yokohama Advan Sport V105
Total: 36.8 / Dry: 9.6 / Wet: 6.6 / Comfort: 5 / Rolling Resistance: 6.6 / Wear: 9
Positive: Top marks in the dry, low wear
Negative: A little weak in the wet compared to the best on test, high fuel consumption


9th: Uniroyal Rainsport 3
Total: 34 / Dry: 6.4 / Wet: 7 / Comfort: 5 / Rolling Resistance: 8.6 / Wear: 7
Positive: Relatively low fuel consumption
Negative: A little weak in the dry compared to the best on test, high wear


10th: Michelin Pilot Sport 3 PS3
Total: 36.8 / Dry: 9.4 / Wet: 7.4 / Comfort: 6 / Rolling Resistance: 7.6 / Wear: 6.4
Positive: Particularly good on dry roads, good in the wet
Negative: Relatively high wear


11th: Toyo Proxes T1 Sport
Total: 34 / Dry: 8.8 / Wet: 6.2 / Comfort: 5.4 / Rolling Resistance: 7.2 / Wear: 6.4
Positive: Good in the dry
Negative: A little weak in the wet compared to the best on test, relatively high wear


12th: Firestone Firehawk SZ90
Total: 33.6 / Dry: 7.6 / Wet: 6 / Comfort: 4.4 / Rolling Resistance: 7.6 / Wear: 8
Positive: Low wear
Negative: Weak in the wet


13th: Fulda SportControl
Total: 36 / Dry: 6.2 / Wet: 6 / Comfort: 6 / Rolling Resistance: 8.4 / Wear: 9.4
Positive: Low wear, low fuel consumption
Negative: Relatively weak on both wet and dry roads


14th: Semperit SpeedLife 2
Total: 35.4 / Dry: 7 / Wet: 6 / Comfort: 5.2 / Rolling Resistance: 8.8 / Wear: 8.4
Positive: Low fuel consumption and wear
Negative: Weak in the wet


15th: GT Radial Champiro HPY
Total: 34.6 / Dry: 9 / Wet: 5.6 / Comfort: 5.6 / Rolling Resistance: 8 / Wear: 6.4
Positive: Very good in the dry
Negative: Weak in the wet, high wear


16th: Maxxis Victra Sport VS01
Total: 33.8 / Dry: 8.8 / Wet: 4.4 / Comfort: 5.2 / Rolling Resistance: 8 / Wear: 7.4
Positive: Good in the dry
Negative: Weak on wet roads




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Sim, foi o que eu disse. Os 3 já substituíram os HP há uns 3/4 anos mas, como disse, há dias fiquei surpreendido por a 5008 (Dez/2015) da minha vizinha ter montados HP de origem. Tenho que confirmar se é alguma medida mais esquisita.
Não é caso único.

Eu estou a usar Primacy 3 em 225/45R17 produzidos na primeira metade de 2014 (Abril, creio) mas ainda há poucos meses vi Civics novos (por matricular) com Primacy HP na mesma medida.

Há uns 3-4 anos lembro-me de trocar de pneus noutro carro e pensar que ia colocar Primacy 3 mas disseram-me que ainda não estava disponível nessa medida (em 205/55R16), na altura ainda tinham os HP.
 
Nova pesquisa.
205/50R16 para uma carrinha Focus MK1

Procuro boa relação qualidade-preço pois é carro para andar tranquilamente. Duração não importa pois carro anda actualmente poucos km's/ano

Preço limite por pneu - 80€

Na lista
- Hankook K115
- Nokian Line
- Kuhmo KU31
- Mabor Sportjet3
- Nexen N'Fera SU1
- Firestone TZ300a
- Nexen N Fera SU1
- Toyo CF2

aceitam-se sugestões ;)
 
EG ou EG Performance? Se forem os performance iria para esses, caso contrário se forem os EG apenas aí escolheria os hankook.

São só EfficientGrip. Não existe os Performance para esta medida.
E sobre a etiqueta de eficiência europeia? Os goodyear tem no combustivel C e os hankook E. Será ao final de 40mil Km se nota diferença?

... entretanto averiguar a informação da etiqueta, e entre cada nível há uma diferença de 4% a 6%, por isso, entre os goodyear e hankook, poderá haver uma poupança de 8% a 12% em combustível.
 
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Essa poupança só se reflete no peso do teu pedal. Eu já usei os dois, noutra medida. Aliás o carro veio com os EG de origem e agora ando com os hankook. São diferentes. Pelo menos sinto isso. São mais confortáveis e agarram mais. Só não sei se me fazem os 65 mil que fizeram os EG. 30 mil já têm mas já estão a mais de meio..
 
Nova pesquisa.
205/50R16 para uma carrinha Focus MK1

Procuro boa relação qualidade-preço pois é carro para andar tranquilamente. Duração não importa pois carro anda actualmente poucos km's/ano

Preço limite por pneu - 80€

Na lista
- Hankook K115
- Nokian Line
- Kuhmo KU31
- Mabor Sportjet3
- Nexen N'Fera SU1
- Firestone TZ300a
- Nexen N Fera SU1
- Toyo CF2

aceitam-se sugestões ;)

Quando mudar para essa medida no meu astra vai levar com 90% de certeza esses Nexen SU1 ou esses Toyo CF2, são do melhor em preço/performance e até duram bem.

Mas se ligares muito à marca põe Dunlop BluResponse, não duram assim muito mas são dos melhores pneus de turismo a nível de performance. Nessa medida ficam-te é ao dobro ou quase dos Nexen, e se conduzes tranquilamente nem deverás dar pela diferença...
 
Estou indeciso por Goodyear Efficientgrip ou Hankook k115 nas medidas de 195/45 R16. A diferença em 4 pneus é de 50€, sendo os Hankook mais baratos.
Alguma sugestão?

Desses dois punha os K115.

Mas vendo a pneucity estes parecem-me melhores:

Toyo CF2
Bridgestone T001
Uniroyal Rainsport 3
Dunlop Sport BluResponse
Hankook K125

Destes punha os Toyo ou os Uniroyal, pois os outros são capazes de ser mais caros...
 
Quando mudar para essa medida no meu astra vai levar com 90% de certeza esses Nexen SU1 ou esses Toyo CF2, são do melhor em preço/performance e até duram bem.

Mas se ligares muito à marca põe Dunlop BluResponse, não duram assim muito mas são dos melhores pneus de turismo a nível de performance. Nessa medida ficam-te é ao dobro ou quase dos Nexen, e se conduzes tranquilamente nem deverás dar pela diferença...



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