F1 2007 GP Brasil - Kimi Raikkonen CAMPEAO
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À primeira vista parecia-me o hamilton por trás da viseira!... [
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Umas palavrinhas de Ron Dennis...
Q. (Livio Oricchio – O Estado de Sao Paulo) Mr. Dennis, you said there are no intellectual properties... If the information we have in the last two days is correct that one technician from your team has information like the size of the tank, the suspension board, tyre wear and a lot of information regarding set-up… We have had a lot of races since the end of April. Do you think that could have been a benefit to McLaren?
RD: You get very much into the area of detail. As I said, it is understandable the conclusions that people come to but this occurrence was at the very end of April. Part of the information that we have made available to the FIA is all the details of all the developments in our cars in not only the period following the end of April but also the preceding months and all the drawings are available of those developments.
None of those drawings and developments have any trace of a competitor's intellectual property. Clearly if an individual has access to information that information is in that person. Then you have to determine for what purpose it is going to be used. I can tell you that the purpose for which it was not used was to have any influence on our Grand Prix cars. Our system is a matrix system which means that the technical work we do is not a pyramid structure with one individual at the top, it is a flat structure.
The development of our cars are very much controlled, from an R&D point of view, by Paddy Lowe and each discipline is under the control of one individual. Therefore it is extremely easy to track back the influence of any one individual on the development of our racing cars. Everything has a name against it.
Therefore, I can categorically state that there are no developments, whatsoever, that have occurred in the months preceding 28th April or the months following 28th April and we can categorically demonstrate that to anybody who needs to have that information and of course that is the FIA. So that is what I can comfortably say. This will not end in anything that causes McLaren embarrassment.
Q. (Tim Scott – F1 Racing) If the third party that you had in the meeting this morning had come to you two or three days ago and you had had that meeting then, McLaren could have avoided two or three days unpleasantness. Did you make that point to them? That they might have come to you sooner?
RD: As painful as it is, and it is extremely painful, we have to follow a process because ultimately the process itself gets scrutinised by both the people involved in the civil matter and also the governing body.
Every time any information became available to McLaren we shared it with both Jean Todt and Max Mosley and that was, to the best of my ability, in real time. As regards this third party there was very early on in the discussions with Jean, a clear recognition from him that he was not questioning in any shape or form either my personal integrity or that of the company.
We agreed that we would have to go through a process. Inevitably some criticism is going to be more intense in some countries than others. It is not great that in some countries they didn't even give us the courtesy of publishing our own press releases which created an even greater groundswell of public opinion.
But we have to be true to our principles. We said that we would follow the process. We are co-operating with both the FIA and Ferrari and sometimes that co-operation requires us to stay silent while this unfolds correctly. The silence is costing us but that is the cost of integrity.
Q: (Andrea Cremonesi – La Gazzetta dello Sport) It seems that there is a third team involved in this investigation and you become a damaged team. Can you confirm that?
RD: I do know that one particular journalist has a scoop. I know that there are rumours going around but I understand that the Sunday Times tomorrow will cover the situation well. The three team principals discussed the situation this morning and again it creates in some ways a bit more clarity. But I want to be very correct in this process. The first thing that I did when I found out about this problem was phone Ferrari, phone Jean Todt. The second was to phone Max Mosley and from the beginning we have been co-operative. We immediately brought independent people into the company to analyse and go through a process. I feel that as much as the reputation of McLaren has been challenged and in some instances, if not all instances, unfairly challenged, I feel that the important thing is to set an example and to behave in a very correct way. I can give a full and detailed understanding to everybody about what has happened over the last few months but it is just inappropriate. The way of the world is that the truth comes out. Probably the thing that I have learned more than anything over the last few days is how fast people are prepared to jump into severe criticism of McLaren. We have had, certainly in the last 20 odd years, an impeccable reputation in the aspect of how we conduct this racing team and how we conduct its business affairs.
Back to your question, over the next 48 hours there will certainly be more information available to people and some of that will perhaps give some insight into motives and what lies behind some peoples actions. It’s not for me to criticise, we will let things unfold. But one thing I will say is that this is all being conducted under civil law, therefore there are no police involved. But that does not mean that we should not follow a proper procedure. Too many people are quick to jump and criticise and effectively condemn. As in most cases the truth will come out. I doubt that there will be many apologies afterwards but the truth will come out.
Q: (Ian Parkes – The Press Association) Ron are you able to reveal details of the discussions that you had with the other two team bosses this morning? Whether they were satisfactory? Whether you were happy with what you heard from them? Have you had any indication from the FIA as to how long their investigation might take and how long it might take to clear McLaren’s name?
RD: The discussion with the team principles was enlightening but it is just part of the jigsaw puzzle as it were. With regards to the FIA, we invited them within one or two hours of this situation coming to light, of us understanding what the issue was, to conduct a full investigation. The duration of the investigation is really determined by - I would think - the civil action, but I’m optimistic that some of the things that need to be established will be established quickly. And for us the first thing is the confirmation that there is no intellectual property on our cars, and never has been, and never will be, that belongs to another grand prix team. Once that hurdle has been crossed, which I am optimistic will be crossed very quickly, then there will be the more complex issue of who said what, and did what, what was the true nature of the motives and the circumstances, ultimately just sorting through everything. I can’t be more specific but I am comfortable that with the passing of time our reputation will be undamaged as much as it can be having gone through this process.
Q: (Mark Fogarty – Auto Action Magazine) Ron, is this, as far as you are aware of, an isolated incident? Or is industrial espionage in fact quite rife in Formula One?
RD: This is a very competitive sport. Inevitably engineers move from team to team quite legitimately. Sometimes at the end of a contract, sometimes at a point where a settlement has been negotiated. That settlement can be between the engineer and the team or between the two teams involved. You cannot un-invent things. People move with all the knowledge and inevitably that knowledge is going to appear, sometimes with great perfection and accuracy, onto other grand prix cars. Very often it relates to aerodynamics because those are the ones that you can so easily digitally photograph and demonstrate beyond any shadow of a doubt that their origins are found in other Grand Prix teams who are the owners of that intellectual property. But that is, to a certain degree, motor sport and there are limits. I remember with great amusement, locking another team’s Aerodynamicist into the back of our truck who was measuring and photographing parts of our bodywork. And you could say that that was over the limit. But equally many photographers are commissioned to take detailed photographs of other people’s cars and we take detailed photographs of other people’s cars and that is probably within the accepted practices in grand prix racing. But there are unwritten limits to which everybody should adhere and clearly these exceed all previously known occurrences. Of course for me it is not a great experience. One of the things I put alongside integrity is loyalty and that also has been a difficult emotion.
Q. (Livio Oricchio – O Estado de Sao Paulo) Mr. Dennis, you said there are no intellectual properties... If the information we have in the last two days is correct that one technician from your team has information like the size of the tank, the suspension board, tyre wear and a lot of information regarding set-up… We have had a lot of races since the end of April. Do you think that could have been a benefit to McLaren?
RD: You get very much into the area of detail. As I said, it is understandable the conclusions that people come to but this occurrence was at the very end of April. Part of the information that we have made available to the FIA is all the details of all the developments in our cars in not only the period following the end of April but also the preceding months and all the drawings are available of those developments.
None of those drawings and developments have any trace of a competitor's intellectual property. Clearly if an individual has access to information that information is in that person. Then you have to determine for what purpose it is going to be used. I can tell you that the purpose for which it was not used was to have any influence on our Grand Prix cars. Our system is a matrix system which means that the technical work we do is not a pyramid structure with one individual at the top, it is a flat structure.
The development of our cars are very much controlled, from an R&D point of view, by Paddy Lowe and each discipline is under the control of one individual. Therefore it is extremely easy to track back the influence of any one individual on the development of our racing cars. Everything has a name against it.
Therefore, I can categorically state that there are no developments, whatsoever, that have occurred in the months preceding 28th April or the months following 28th April and we can categorically demonstrate that to anybody who needs to have that information and of course that is the FIA. So that is what I can comfortably say. This will not end in anything that causes McLaren embarrassment.
Q. (Tim Scott – F1 Racing) If the third party that you had in the meeting this morning had come to you two or three days ago and you had had that meeting then, McLaren could have avoided two or three days unpleasantness. Did you make that point to them? That they might have come to you sooner?
RD: As painful as it is, and it is extremely painful, we have to follow a process because ultimately the process itself gets scrutinised by both the people involved in the civil matter and also the governing body.
Every time any information became available to McLaren we shared it with both Jean Todt and Max Mosley and that was, to the best of my ability, in real time. As regards this third party there was very early on in the discussions with Jean, a clear recognition from him that he was not questioning in any shape or form either my personal integrity or that of the company.
We agreed that we would have to go through a process. Inevitably some criticism is going to be more intense in some countries than others. It is not great that in some countries they didn't even give us the courtesy of publishing our own press releases which created an even greater groundswell of public opinion.
But we have to be true to our principles. We said that we would follow the process. We are co-operating with both the FIA and Ferrari and sometimes that co-operation requires us to stay silent while this unfolds correctly. The silence is costing us but that is the cost of integrity.
Q: (Andrea Cremonesi – La Gazzetta dello Sport) It seems that there is a third team involved in this investigation and you become a damaged team. Can you confirm that?
RD: I do know that one particular journalist has a scoop. I know that there are rumours going around but I understand that the Sunday Times tomorrow will cover the situation well. The three team principals discussed the situation this morning and again it creates in some ways a bit more clarity. But I want to be very correct in this process. The first thing that I did when I found out about this problem was phone Ferrari, phone Jean Todt. The second was to phone Max Mosley and from the beginning we have been co-operative. We immediately brought independent people into the company to analyse and go through a process. I feel that as much as the reputation of McLaren has been challenged and in some instances, if not all instances, unfairly challenged, I feel that the important thing is to set an example and to behave in a very correct way. I can give a full and detailed understanding to everybody about what has happened over the last few months but it is just inappropriate. The way of the world is that the truth comes out. Probably the thing that I have learned more than anything over the last few days is how fast people are prepared to jump into severe criticism of McLaren. We have had, certainly in the last 20 odd years, an impeccable reputation in the aspect of how we conduct this racing team and how we conduct its business affairs.
Back to your question, over the next 48 hours there will certainly be more information available to people and some of that will perhaps give some insight into motives and what lies behind some peoples actions. It’s not for me to criticise, we will let things unfold. But one thing I will say is that this is all being conducted under civil law, therefore there are no police involved. But that does not mean that we should not follow a proper procedure. Too many people are quick to jump and criticise and effectively condemn. As in most cases the truth will come out. I doubt that there will be many apologies afterwards but the truth will come out.
Q: (Ian Parkes – The Press Association) Ron are you able to reveal details of the discussions that you had with the other two team bosses this morning? Whether they were satisfactory? Whether you were happy with what you heard from them? Have you had any indication from the FIA as to how long their investigation might take and how long it might take to clear McLaren’s name?
RD: The discussion with the team principles was enlightening but it is just part of the jigsaw puzzle as it were. With regards to the FIA, we invited them within one or two hours of this situation coming to light, of us understanding what the issue was, to conduct a full investigation. The duration of the investigation is really determined by - I would think - the civil action, but I’m optimistic that some of the things that need to be established will be established quickly. And for us the first thing is the confirmation that there is no intellectual property on our cars, and never has been, and never will be, that belongs to another grand prix team. Once that hurdle has been crossed, which I am optimistic will be crossed very quickly, then there will be the more complex issue of who said what, and did what, what was the true nature of the motives and the circumstances, ultimately just sorting through everything. I can’t be more specific but I am comfortable that with the passing of time our reputation will be undamaged as much as it can be having gone through this process.
Q: (Mark Fogarty – Auto Action Magazine) Ron, is this, as far as you are aware of, an isolated incident? Or is industrial espionage in fact quite rife in Formula One?
RD: This is a very competitive sport. Inevitably engineers move from team to team quite legitimately. Sometimes at the end of a contract, sometimes at a point where a settlement has been negotiated. That settlement can be between the engineer and the team or between the two teams involved. You cannot un-invent things. People move with all the knowledge and inevitably that knowledge is going to appear, sometimes with great perfection and accuracy, onto other grand prix cars. Very often it relates to aerodynamics because those are the ones that you can so easily digitally photograph and demonstrate beyond any shadow of a doubt that their origins are found in other Grand Prix teams who are the owners of that intellectual property. But that is, to a certain degree, motor sport and there are limits. I remember with great amusement, locking another team’s Aerodynamicist into the back of our truck who was measuring and photographing parts of our bodywork. And you could say that that was over the limit. But equally many photographers are commissioned to take detailed photographs of other people’s cars and we take detailed photographs of other people’s cars and that is probably within the accepted practices in grand prix racing. But there are unwritten limits to which everybody should adhere and clearly these exceed all previously known occurrences. Of course for me it is not a great experience. One of the things I put alongside integrity is loyalty and that also has been a difficult emotion.
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