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2008 Saturn VUE 4-DR w/SAB.
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and vehicle safety, please email crash.test@dot.gov This vehicle when rated, had: Side Impact Airbags Curtain/Torso Electronic Stability Control Yes Vehicle Curb Weight 4116
Frontal Crash Driver
Passenger
Head Injury Criterion 486 369 Chest deceleration (g's) 44 41 Femur load l/r1 (lb) 914 / 1505 1045 / 475 View Frontal Test
Side Crash Front Seat
Rear Seat
Head Injury Criterion2 (HIC) 68 197 Thoracic Trauma Index (TTI) 32 42 Pelvis Deceleration (g's) 57 59 View Side Test
Rollover Chance of rollover 18% Static Stability Factor 1.20 Dynamic Test Result No-tip Drive FWD Tire Size P235/65/R16
Rollover AWD Chance of rollover 15% Static Stability Factor 1.25 Dynamic Test Result No-tip Drive AWD Tire Size P235/65R16
Belts & Head Restraints Adjustable Upper Belt - Front Standard Adjustable Upper Belt - Rear Standard Seat Belt Extenders Dealer Installed Option Additional Webbing Inches - Driver 33.5 Additional Webbing Inches - Passenger 31.7 Pretensioner Standard Front Energy Management Feature Standard Front Integrated Safety Belt - Rear Center Lap/Shoulder Belt Standard Enhanced Seat Belt Reminder System Standard Rear Seat Head Restraint Standard Dynamic Head Restraint Standard Air Bags SAB - head protection Standard Curtain Bag For Rows 1 and 2 SAB - chest protection Standard Torso Bag From Seat For Row 1 SAB Out Of Position Testing Meets Specification Advanced Air Bag Systems Standard Air Bag On-Off Switch - Driving Safety 4-Wheel ABS Optional Electronic Stability Control Standard Traction Control Standard Tire Pressure Monitor Standard Auto-Dimming Rearview Mirrors Optional Daytime Running Lights Standard Auto Door Locks Standard Automatic Crash Notification Standard Safety Power Windows Standard Push-Down Lift Up Switch Other Built-In Child Seats - Child Seat Lower Anchorage (LATCH) Standard Interior Trunk Release Standard Anti-Theft Features Standard Passive Immobilizer, Active Alarm
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2008 Dodge Grand Caravan w/SAB
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Frontal Crash Driver
Passenger
Head Injury Criterion 477 386 Chest deceleration (g's) 38 38 Femur load l/r1 (lb) 823 / 596 877 / 800 View Frontal Test
Side Crash Front Seat
Rear Seat
Head Injury Criterion2 (HIC) 113 192 Thoracic Trauma Index (TTI) 34 39 Pelvis Deceleration (g's) 59 74 View Side Test
Rollover Chance of rollover 16% Static Stability Factor 1.24 Dynamic Test Result No-tip Drive FWD Tire Size P225/65R16
Belts & Head Restraints Adjustable Upper Belt - Front Standard Adjustable Upper Belt - Rear Standard Seat Belt Extenders Dealer Installed Option Additional Webbing Inches - Driver 19.25 Additional Webbing Inches - Passenger 29.75 Pretensioner Standard Front Energy Management Feature Standard Front Integrated Safety Belt Optional Rear Center Lap/Shoulder Belt Standard Enhanced Seat Belt Reminder System Standard Rear Seat Head Restraint Standard Dynamic Head Restraint - Air Bags SAB - head protection Standard Curtain Bag For Rows 1, 2 and 3 SAB - chest protection null SAB Out Of Position Testing Meets Specification Advanced Air Bag Systems Standard Air Bag On-Off Switch - Driving Safety 4-Wheel ABS Standard Electronic Stability Control Standard Traction Control Standard Tire Pressure Monitor Optional Auto-Dimming Rearview Mirrors Optional Daytime Running Lights Option Auto Door Locks Standard Automatic Crash Notification - Safety Power Windows Standard Push-Down Lift Up Switch and Optional Anti-Pinch Other Built-In Child Seats - Child Seat Lower Anchorage (LATCH) Standard Interior Trunk Release Standard Anti-Theft Features Standard Passive Immobilizer, Active Alarm
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Hola, GTTDI.
Aunque también habría que ver el caso de un hipotético Nissan Patrol contra el Golf III en idénticas condiciones, si hubiera tenido con su correspondiente airbag(a diferencia del probado contra el Golf III)
o no mejores resultados en cuanto a deceleraciones en la cabeza que las que obtuvo el Clase S(serie W140): con sus correspondientes airbags contra el Golf III en tales condiciones...
Aquí estarían las diferencias de deceleraciones en condiciones más o menos iguales(lo de más o menos lo digo porque no es lo mismo probar un coche a 64 k/h, el Nissan Patrol con airbag, que a 60k/h: el Nissan Patrol sin airbags).
El resultado de al lado, aunque ponga que fue de una prueba lateral, está equivocado, fueron los resultados consecuencia de una prueba completamente frontal a 56 k/h(como la realizada por NHTSA) contra un muro...
Aquí están los enlaces:
http://www.mynrma.com.au/cps/rde/xchg/mynrma/hs.xsl/nissan_patrol_ancap_1998.htm
(Nissan Patrol con airbag de conductor)
Restraints: Marginal
Full frontal crash test
The driver's head was cushioned by the airbag and protection from serious head injury was acceptable. The passenger's head glanced the dash. The driver's knees hit the dash. The passenger's knees hit the glove box.
Offset crash test
The steering column moved up by a substantial 27cm. The driver's head was initially cushioned by the airbag but then the airbag moved up with the steering column. The driver's head ended up underneath the steering column. Both legs were forced up substantially by the intruding floor and protection from serious lower leg injury was poor. The upper legs of the dummy were also placed under high loads but, due to the manner in which the loads arose, it was not possible to determine the corresponding risk of upper leg injury to a human.
Modifiers - Offset test scores
Head -
Chest -
Upper leg -
Lower leg -
Foot score -
Injury Measurements
Refer to the information sheet "How the test are done" Offset Crash Test
at 64 km/h
Driver Passenger Driver
Head
HIC 368 451 (834:choque a 56 k/h contra un muro perpendicular)
Acceleration (g for 3ms)
Head Injury Criterion (HIC) is a measure of the potential for head injury. At a HIC of 1000 one in 6 adults will suffer from life-threatening injury to their brain.
Neck
Shear (kN)
Tension (kN)
Extension (Nm)
Chest
Acceleration (g for 3ms)
37 41 (56 : choque a 56 k/h contra un muro a 0º/90º)
Compression (mm) 34 42 (43:choque a 56 k/h contra un muro a 0º/90º)
Viscous Criterion (m/s)
Chest compression of 75 or more, or chest acceleration of 90 or more indicates poor protection from serious chest injury.
Abdomen
Force (kN)
Pelvis
Force (kN)
Upper Legs
Force Left (kN)
0.08 0.5 -
Force Right (kN) 3 4.4 -
Knee Disp. Left (mm)
-
Knee Disp. Right (mm) -
An upper leg axial force of 10.9 or more indicates poor protection from serious upper leg (femur) injury.
Lower Legs
Force Left (kN) 1.37 -
Force Right (kN) >3.0 -
Index (upper/lower) Left
-
Index (upper/lower) Right -
A lower leg index of 1.2 or more indicates poor protection from serious lower leg (tibia) injury.
Bonus points (maximum 5):
Pole test: Not eligible Seat belt reminders: None
Y estos son los resultados del Nissan Patrol sin airbags de ningún tipo(es decir como el de la prueba contra el Golf III):
http://www.mynrma.com.au/cps/rde/xchg/mynrma/hs.xsl/nissan_patrol_ancap_1994.htm
Full frontal crash test
The passenger compartment held its shape reasonably well, except there was substantial rearward and upward movement of the dash at the height of the crash. All doors remained closed during the crash. After the crash tools were required to open all four doors.
Offset crash test (60km/h)
The roof was severely deformed in the offset crash test. The front part of the driver's floor was pushed rearwards 29cm and was severely deformed. The dash was pushed 14cm towards the driver. The width of the driver's doorway shortened by 18cm and the door buckled outwards. All doors remained closed during the crash. After the crash tools were required to open the driver's door. The other doors could be easily opened.
Restraints: PoorFull frontal crash test
The driver's head hit the steering wheel with a very severe impact. The steering wheel was moving up and back at the time. The cover on the steering wheel hub broke away just before the impact, exposing hard components. Protection from serious head injury was poor. The passenger's head hit the grab handle and dash with a very severe impact. The driver's knees hit the dash. The passenger's knees hit the dash.
Offset crash test (60km/h)
The driver's head hit the steering column with a severe impact but protection from serious head injury was acceptable. The passenger's head hit the grab handle but protection from serious head injury was good. The driver's knees hit the dash. The passenger's knees hit the glove box and dash.
Modifiers - Offset test scores
Head -
Chest -
Upper leg -
Lower leg -
Foot score -
Injury Measurements
Refer to the information sheet "How the test are done" Offset Crash Test
at 64 km/h
(v4.1) Side Impact
Crash at
50 km/h
(v4.1)
Driver Passenger Driver
Head
HIC 897 604 (1750: choque a 56 k/h contra un muro a 0º/90º)
Acceleration (g for 3ms)
Head Injury Criterion (HIC) is a measure of the potential for head injury. At a HIC of 1000 one in 6 adults will suffer from life-threatening injury to their brain.
Neck
Shear (kN)
Tension (kN)
Extension (Nm)
Chest
Acceleration (g for 3ms)
37 32 (67 :choque a 56 k/h contra un muro a 0º/90º)
Compression (mm) 54 32 (44 :choque a 56 k/h contra un muro a 0º/90º)
Viscous Criterion (m/s)
Chest compression of 75 or more, or chest acceleration of 90 or more indicates poor protection from serious chest injury.
Abdomen
Force (kN)
Pelvis
Force (kN)
Upper Legs
Force Left (kN)
4.5 -
Force Right (kN) 4.6 -
Knee Disp. Left (mm)
-
Knee Disp. Right (mm) -
An upper leg axial force of 10.9 or more indicates poor protection from serious upper leg (femur) injury.
Lower Legs
Force Left (kN) 0.8 -
Force Right (kN) 0.4 -
Index (upper/lower) Left
-
Index (upper/lower) Right -
A lower leg index of 1.2 or more indicates poor protection from serious lower leg (tibia) injury.
Bonus points (maximum 5):
Como se puede comprobar, en condiciones como mínimo comparables del Nissan Patrol sin airbags a la versión con airbag de conductor el Head Injury Criterium disminuye como mínimo a más de la mitad...
Desgraciadamente no dispongo de datos de deceleración puntual en la cabeza, pero mucho me temo que el Nissan Patrol con un H.I.C. de 1750 tuviera deceleraciones en la cabeza durante 3 milisegundos de hasta más de 150 g´s, mientras que con un H.I.C. de 834 probablemente no más de 80 g´s...
Y cuando pasa de 897 a 368(451 en el lado del pasajero) no me extrañaría nada que pasara de 80 g´s o incluso algo más a no más de 60 g´s...
Es decir que no sería nada disparatado pensar que un hipotético Nissan Patrol con sólo airbag de conductor, en la prueba contra el Golf III en las condiciones anteriores(75% de solapamiento en el frontal del Golf III), en vez de tener un H.I.C. de casi 1500 pasara a tener un H.I.C. inferior a 750 o incluso a 700, o no mucho más de 600...
Recordemos que el Clase S con sus correspondientes airbags y en idénticas condiciones contra el Golf III obtuvo un H.I.C. de 870...
Mientras que en las deceleraciones máximas puntuales, es difícil bajar de 70-75 g´s...
Recordemos que el Clase S con sus correspondientes airbags y en idénticas condiciones contra el Golf III obtuvo una deceleración durante 3 milisegundos en la cabeza del maniquí-conductor de 80 g´s...
Saludos.
Globalcar.
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josemanuel
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Crash test Rolls Royce
Crash test Rolls Royce
alguém tem dados sobre crash test a rolls royce, bentley, maybach?
estes carros são extremamente caros, mas não se sabe nada sobre isto.
seria bom ter uma noção se cumprem estes testes.
um abraço.
Crash test Rolls Royce
alguém tem dados sobre crash test a rolls royce, bentley, maybach?
estes carros são extremamente caros, mas não se sabe nada sobre isto.
seria bom ter uma noção se cumprem estes testes.
um abraço.
Motronic
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LinoMarques
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Esses carros, tal como todos os outros produzidos em série, têm de passar testes para poderem ser homologados. Nomeadamente, na UE têm de superar o crash-test a 56 Km/h com 40% da frente.
No entanto, e que seja do meu conhecimentos, não existem imagens ou resultados desses carros publicados.
No tópico dos crash-tests podem ver-se imagens de alguns Classe S ou Audi A8 contra carros mais pequenos. O Audi A8 de 1996 foi testado pela revista alemã auto motor und sport contra um muro a 55 km/h.
No entanto, e que seja do meu conhecimentos, não existem imagens ou resultados desses carros publicados.
No tópico dos crash-tests podem ver-se imagens de alguns Classe S ou Audi A8 contra carros mais pequenos. O Audi A8 de 1996 foi testado pela revista alemã auto motor und sport contra um muro a 55 km/h.
ClioII
Well-known member
E os resultados não são públicos? Quem faz estes testes então? A TUV ou organismo equivalente de normalização?
LinoMarques
Well-known member
Os testes são feitos por diversas entidades especializadas (Dekra, TUV, etc.) a encargo da UE.
jonnybb3000
New member
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/gumball-crash-rolls-royce/1427670332
aqui vai um self made crash test a um rolls....
barato o arranjo , coisinha para uma 35d repro...ahahahaha
Hola, jose manuel.
En este enlace puedes ver pruebas realizadas al Maybach:
http://www.forocoches.com/foro/showthread.php?t=315303&page=3
(mercedes clase s actual o de la serie W221 y Maybach)
http://www.forocoches.com/foro/showthread.php?t=315303
Pero claro, recordemos que casi la mitad de su pesado bastidor tiene aceros de alta resistencia:
http://www.km77.com/marcas/maybach/maybach_02/sumario6.asp
El 77 por ciento del peso del bastidor del Maybach es acero estampado, del cual casi la mitad es de alta resistencia. Después del acero, el material más abundante es el aluminio (17 por ciento del peso total), con el que se hacen las puertas, el techo, el capó y las aletas.
O que el Clase S actual(serie W221) tiene un 43% de de acero de alta resistencia:
http://www.km77.com/marcas/mercedes/2005/clase-s/gama/t06.asp
El bastidor es de acero estampado y la carrocería tiene unos paneles de acero y otros de aluminio. El 43 por ciento del conjunto de carrocería y bastidor está hecho con acero de resistencia alta o ultra-alta (sólo el 8 por ciento en el anterior Clase S). Son de aluminio las aletas delanteras, el capó, la tapa del maletero, las puertas, el tabique que separa el habitáculo del maletero (tras los asientos traseros) y otras piezas interiores. Hay también algunos materiales compuestos, como el alojamiento de la rueda de repuesto (termoplástico con fibra).
Cuando se refiere a que el anterior Clase S(W220) tenía sólo el 8%, mucho me temo que el anterior Clase S(W140) tuviera sólo el 2 ó el 4% como mucho...
Aunque suponga chocar a prácticamente 61-62 k/h en una prueba contra una barrera deformable a 64k/h(no olvidemos que incluso un Clase S de la serie W140 en una hipotética prueba contra una barrera deformable a 64 k/h equivale chocar a 60 k/h).
Es decir que la robusta y alargada estructura del Maybach resiste mejor un choque a 64 k/h que el "viejo" Clase S en las mismas condiciones o que incluso el Clase S de la serie W220...
El Rolls Royce actual y de paso el Bentley, se han renovado lo suficiente para no tener que envidiar a los Maybach y Clase S actuales(no tan aparatosos como los Maybach citados los primeros anteriormente,pero sí más que los Clase S actuales)
Saludos.
Globalcar.