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SEMILHA
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Acho uma falta de respeito atroz por parte da Mclaren que na última prova do ano, ainda não tenha decidido a dupla do próximo ano...sabendo que provavelmente quem irá sair será o Button e impedindo ao piloto uma despedida como deve ser da F1.
Se o Webber mereceu ter uma última volta histórica num F1 o Button merece muito mais....
Mas o Ron...........
Se o Webber mereceu ter uma última volta histórica num F1 o Button merece muito mais....
Mas o Ron...........
nebuchadnezzar
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O problema este ano da Mclaren não está no motor. Tem claramente aquele que é considerado o melhor do campeonato. A nível de pilotos também não me parece que seja o grande problema. Ou seja, vai trocar para a Honda, sem ter noção se não vai ser andar para trás. A Mclaren só se tornará competitiva quando conseguir apresentar um bom conjunto chassis mais motor e pilotos.
BEF1FAN
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Não acho que seja uma falta de respeito e nunca percebi a moda de anunciar os pilotos antes do fim da temporada.
O contrato deles é de X temporadas, logo é para se cumprirem até ao fim e só no final do ano se anuncia alguma coisa que esteja já acertada (estando todas as partes informadas, claro). Claro que isto raramente acontece, ninguém quer entregar segredos ao inimigo do próximo ano...
fujimen
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Penso que neste caso o mais importante vai para além de esconder segredos. Trata-se da possível despedida de um dos melhores caracteres que passaram pela F1 nos últimos anos. Sem ser um magnífico velocista, Button foi campeão, é tido como um dos pilotos mais inteligentes do pelotão e provavelmente o melhor piloto em termos de gestão do desgaste do carro em corrida. Por isso também penso que mereceria uma despedida como muitos outros já tiveram e de certeza que teria muita gente a aplaudi-lo. Esta época por exemplo, não fazendo resultados brilhantes, deve ser o piloto que esteve envolvido em mais momentos de puro espetáculo de wheel-to-wheel (sim, os grandes pilotos não são os melhores nisto mas sim a ganhar), mas cá eu prefiro ver grandes pilotos no meio do pelotão a batalhar por posições do que grandes pilotos que, felizmente para eles, infelizmente para mim, têm um carro tão bom que deixa de haver espetáculo. Acima de tudo, aplaudia o homem de pé se soubesse que a próxima corrida será a sua última
SEMILHA
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Tendo em conta o xadrez da F1 actual...as únicas duvidas que ficam são...quantas equipas teremos...se fica o Vergne ou entra o Carlitos...e quem sai da Mclaren para dar lugar ao Alonso...
No momento em que o Vet disse que saía da RB tudo ficou desmascarado...por isso...dizer que..."a nossa equipa continuará a contar com os serviços do Kevin o próximo ano e agradecemos a dedicação e trabalho do Button"...nao ficava nada mal à Mclaren. Nem precisam de anunciar o Alonso...
Este fim de semana que passou o Hirvonen tb disse adeus aos ralis...foi anunciado antes e o RAC foi a despedida...acho que fica mal sim à Mclaren...até pq já não ficam peças para esconder...a não ser que alguém acredite que o Sutil ou o Gutierrez vão para a Mclaren.....
O Button irá embora sem glória...jogado para o lixo pela Mclaren...por um puto "maravilha" que tirando o resultado da primeira corrida...pouco fez...basta dizer que o Kvyat le roubou todo o protagonismo...
Parece que na Dams todos fazem maravilhas né Carlitos?
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Resumo da batalha Hamilton vs Rosberg,
Hamilton v Rosberg: A cold war turned nuclear | Formula 1 | F1 features | ESPN F1
Round 1 to Rosberg
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The opening round of the championship highlighted two things. First that Mercedes pace in pre-season testing was as dominant as it looked and secondly that reliability could sway the championship. Hamilton qualified on pole but completed just two laps before an engine misfire forced him to retire. The cause was a small split in the insulating tube protecting the current to the spark plug, a minor detail but one that instantly put Hamilton on the back foot. The failure itself didn't impact the relationship within the team, but it did put Hamilton in full-attack mode in order to make up lost ground.
Points: Rosberg 25 - 0 Hamilton
Rivalry rating: 2/10
The battle of Bahrain
The second round in Malaysia saw Hamilton beat Rosberg fair and square, but in the desert of Bahrain the rivalry heated up. Rosberg took pole but Hamilton got past him at the start, setting up a thrilling battle for the rest of the race. Rosberg's strategy was helped by a safety car, but Hamilton still came out victorious with an answer to each and every move Rosberg made. Immediately after the race the two embraced in a mock fight in parc ferme, with memories of their childhood karting rivalry flooding back, but there was more to the battle than met the eye. For very short periods of time Rosberg had used a banned engine mode to boost his power and attack Hamilton. The team made clear that such tricks were not permitted as they could lead to excess strain on the power units and limit their life.
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Points: Rosberg 61 - 50 Hamilton
Rivalry rating: 6/10
More tricks in Spain
Hamilton arrived in Spain with three consecutive victories behind him and the opportunity to move ahead of Rosberg in the championship with win number four. Telemetry issues for Rosberg in China meant Hamilton had an easy win, but in Spain the German fought back with a brilliant drive to finish just 0.636s behind Hamilton. On a track with more overtaking opportunities, Rosberg may have been able to pass and after the race said an extra lap would have been enough. What he didn't know was that Hamilton had used the same engine mode trick to defend position that he had used in Bahrain. Heading to Monaco, the gloves came off.
Points: Hamilton 100 - 97 Rosberg
Rivalry rating: 8/10
The Mirabeau mystery
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Rosberg arrived in his home town of Monaco knowing he had to stop the rot. One way or another he had to limit Hamilton's momentum and get back on top, especially after coming so close in Spain and being denied unfairly. But as the weekend got underway, Hamilton held the edge in all three practice sessions and again in Q2 ahead of the top-ten shootout. Rosberg had one more chance to make the difference in Q3 and on the first of two runs narrowly beat his rival by 0.059s. The main difference was in the first corner where Rosberg had been quicker all weekend, but on his second attempt he got it slightly wrong and was chasing his previous time all the way up to the hill to Casino Square.
The one place where he could afford to throw it all on the line was at Mirabeau where there is ample run-off at the exit to forgive mistakes. It was a no-brainer. If he found a tenth he might be back on a quick lap and if he got it wrong he would ruin the laps of those behind, including Hamilton, by causing yellow flags. In the end the braking for the corner looked clumsy, inviting suggestions of foul play and drawing comparisons with Michael Schumacher's "mistake" at La Rascasse in 2006. Although the stewards found Rosberg not guilty, the incident is still seen as an unpunished professional foul by many in the paddock. Hamilton made clear that he felt Rosberg had ruined his lap on purpose and, after starting and finishing the race second, announced that he and Rosberg were no longer friends. Four days later he retracted the statement on Twitter, but it's fair to say the relationship was never the same again.
Points: Rosberg 122 - 118 Hamilton
Rivalry rating: 9/10
Mid-season reliability woes
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After five straight one-two victories between Malaysia and Monaco, reliability issues peppered four of Mercedes' next five races. In Canada an identical Energy Recovery System (ERS) problem hit both cars, with the Motor Generator Unit - Kinetic (MGU-K) failing midway through the race. The problem not only reduced power but also led to excess strain on the rear brakes, which are usually supplemented by the MGU-K harvesting energy under braking. Hamilton was forced to retire while Rosberg put in one of his most impressive performances of the season to nurse his car home to second.
By the time the circus arrived at Hamilton's home race at Silverstone, the Brit had a 29-point deficit to Rosberg after finishing second to the German in Austria. However, this time it was Rosberg's turn to have a dose of bad luck and he retired from the lead with a gearbox problem midway through the race, handing victory to his team-mate. Two weeks later at Rosberg's home race, the tables turned again when Hamilton suffered a brake failure in qualifying. He limited the damage by finishing third, but Rosberg now had the momentum behind him once more.
Points after German GP: Rosberg 190 - 176 Hamilton
Rivalry rating: 6/10
Team orders in Hungary
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For the second weekend in a row, Hamilton was forced to start from the back of the grid when a fuel leak set his car alight in the first session of qualifying. It could have been a bitter blow for Hamilton's title chances, but a torrential downpour one hour before the start of the race helped him make progress while Rosberg was shuffled back through the field. Mercedes split its strategies to tailor the needs of its two drivers, but inadvertently set them on a collision course for later in the race. At the time Rosberg's target was still victory while Hamilton was focused on damage limitation, but as the action unfolded it became possible for both drivers to challenge for the win. Yet on lap 50 the Mercedes pit wall radioed Hamilton to let Rosberg past in order to allow his team-mate some clear air to press on. Hamilton, who in any case was keeping Rosberg at bay, ignored the order to finish third ahead of Rosberg in fourth. The call from the pit wall gave fuel to conspiracy theorists, but Mercedes was quick to back down and come to the support of Hamilton. "From my point of view Lewis was right," Mercedes chairman Niki Lauda said. "And why the call came, this happened out of panic and we had to make up for what we were losing." Rosberg, however, saw it differently…
Points: Rosberg 202 - 191 Hamilton
Rivalry rating: 8/10
Crunch time in Spa
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After all that had happened at the previous 10 races, it was perhaps no surprise that Rosberg and Hamilton collided at the Belgium Grand Prix, but what was a surprise was the fallout and post-race accusations that followed. During the team debrief Rosberg said he wanted to prove a point by leaving his car on the inside of Hamilton's, which his team-mate interpreted as causing a collision on purpose. Trust in the Mercedes camp dissipated and crisis talks were held the following weekend at the team's factory. Rosberg was forced to apologise and "suitable disciplinary measures" were taken against him, although the team never revealed the details. Hamilton also admitted to making mistakes over the course of the season, allowing for the relationship to be reset without the need to castigate. In doing so the Mercedes management took the edge off the rivalry between the two, although the threat of much more serious action in the case of a repeat no doubt had a deep impact on both drivers.
Points: Rosberg 220 - 191 Hamilton
Rivalry rating: 10/10
Advantage Hamilton
Over the following five races, Hamilton did his talking on the track and took five consecutive victories. He made a huge leap forward at the Singapore Grand Prix when Rosberg suffered an electronics failure with his steering wheel. The problem was traced back to the contamination of the steering's wiring loom by a substance used during servicing back at base. It gave Hamilton a three-point lead in the championship that he then extended over the next three races. At the Japanese and US Grands Prix he came from behind to pass Rosberg on track, underlining the advantage he had over his team-mate in race conditions. Rosberg hit back with victory in Brazil to limit the gap to 17 points ahead of the final round, although Hamilton could have put up a much stronger fight had he not spun at a crucial point in the race.
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Points after Brazilian GP: Hamilton 334 - 317 Rosberg
Rivalry rating: 7/10
The final round
Although things have cooled off between Hamilton and Rosberg since Spa, an intense rivalry still divides them. Asked how he saw his personal relationship with Hamilton at the last two races, Rosberg simply said "neutral" - a word not usually used to describe a bond with another human being. But these aren't two normal human beings, they're racing drivers locked in a battle for the greatest prize of their professional lives. Both have cracked under pressure and done things they ought not to over the past 18 races, but both have also delivered performances worthy of a champion. The final round has the potential to deliver one last twist of fate or, under the pressure of the moment, tempt one of them into distorting fate. If we are to learn anything from the season so far, it's that anything in this title battle is possible.
Read more at Hamilton v Rosberg: A cold war turned nuclear | Formula 1 | F1 features | ESPN F1
Hamilton v Rosberg: A cold war turned nuclear | Formula 1 | F1 features | ESPN F1
Round 1 to Rosberg
Enlarge
The opening round of the championship highlighted two things. First that Mercedes pace in pre-season testing was as dominant as it looked and secondly that reliability could sway the championship. Hamilton qualified on pole but completed just two laps before an engine misfire forced him to retire. The cause was a small split in the insulating tube protecting the current to the spark plug, a minor detail but one that instantly put Hamilton on the back foot. The failure itself didn't impact the relationship within the team, but it did put Hamilton in full-attack mode in order to make up lost ground.
Points: Rosberg 25 - 0 Hamilton
Rivalry rating: 2/10
The battle of Bahrain
The second round in Malaysia saw Hamilton beat Rosberg fair and square, but in the desert of Bahrain the rivalry heated up. Rosberg took pole but Hamilton got past him at the start, setting up a thrilling battle for the rest of the race. Rosberg's strategy was helped by a safety car, but Hamilton still came out victorious with an answer to each and every move Rosberg made. Immediately after the race the two embraced in a mock fight in parc ferme, with memories of their childhood karting rivalry flooding back, but there was more to the battle than met the eye. For very short periods of time Rosberg had used a banned engine mode to boost his power and attack Hamilton. The team made clear that such tricks were not permitted as they could lead to excess strain on the power units and limit their life.
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Points: Rosberg 61 - 50 Hamilton
Rivalry rating: 6/10
More tricks in Spain
Hamilton arrived in Spain with three consecutive victories behind him and the opportunity to move ahead of Rosberg in the championship with win number four. Telemetry issues for Rosberg in China meant Hamilton had an easy win, but in Spain the German fought back with a brilliant drive to finish just 0.636s behind Hamilton. On a track with more overtaking opportunities, Rosberg may have been able to pass and after the race said an extra lap would have been enough. What he didn't know was that Hamilton had used the same engine mode trick to defend position that he had used in Bahrain. Heading to Monaco, the gloves came off.
Points: Hamilton 100 - 97 Rosberg
Rivalry rating: 8/10
The Mirabeau mystery
Enlarge
Rosberg arrived in his home town of Monaco knowing he had to stop the rot. One way or another he had to limit Hamilton's momentum and get back on top, especially after coming so close in Spain and being denied unfairly. But as the weekend got underway, Hamilton held the edge in all three practice sessions and again in Q2 ahead of the top-ten shootout. Rosberg had one more chance to make the difference in Q3 and on the first of two runs narrowly beat his rival by 0.059s. The main difference was in the first corner where Rosberg had been quicker all weekend, but on his second attempt he got it slightly wrong and was chasing his previous time all the way up to the hill to Casino Square.
The one place where he could afford to throw it all on the line was at Mirabeau where there is ample run-off at the exit to forgive mistakes. It was a no-brainer. If he found a tenth he might be back on a quick lap and if he got it wrong he would ruin the laps of those behind, including Hamilton, by causing yellow flags. In the end the braking for the corner looked clumsy, inviting suggestions of foul play and drawing comparisons with Michael Schumacher's "mistake" at La Rascasse in 2006. Although the stewards found Rosberg not guilty, the incident is still seen as an unpunished professional foul by many in the paddock. Hamilton made clear that he felt Rosberg had ruined his lap on purpose and, after starting and finishing the race second, announced that he and Rosberg were no longer friends. Four days later he retracted the statement on Twitter, but it's fair to say the relationship was never the same again.
Points: Rosberg 122 - 118 Hamilton
Rivalry rating: 9/10
Mid-season reliability woes
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After five straight one-two victories between Malaysia and Monaco, reliability issues peppered four of Mercedes' next five races. In Canada an identical Energy Recovery System (ERS) problem hit both cars, with the Motor Generator Unit - Kinetic (MGU-K) failing midway through the race. The problem not only reduced power but also led to excess strain on the rear brakes, which are usually supplemented by the MGU-K harvesting energy under braking. Hamilton was forced to retire while Rosberg put in one of his most impressive performances of the season to nurse his car home to second.
By the time the circus arrived at Hamilton's home race at Silverstone, the Brit had a 29-point deficit to Rosberg after finishing second to the German in Austria. However, this time it was Rosberg's turn to have a dose of bad luck and he retired from the lead with a gearbox problem midway through the race, handing victory to his team-mate. Two weeks later at Rosberg's home race, the tables turned again when Hamilton suffered a brake failure in qualifying. He limited the damage by finishing third, but Rosberg now had the momentum behind him once more.
Points after German GP: Rosberg 190 - 176 Hamilton
Rivalry rating: 6/10
Team orders in Hungary
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For the second weekend in a row, Hamilton was forced to start from the back of the grid when a fuel leak set his car alight in the first session of qualifying. It could have been a bitter blow for Hamilton's title chances, but a torrential downpour one hour before the start of the race helped him make progress while Rosberg was shuffled back through the field. Mercedes split its strategies to tailor the needs of its two drivers, but inadvertently set them on a collision course for later in the race. At the time Rosberg's target was still victory while Hamilton was focused on damage limitation, but as the action unfolded it became possible for both drivers to challenge for the win. Yet on lap 50 the Mercedes pit wall radioed Hamilton to let Rosberg past in order to allow his team-mate some clear air to press on. Hamilton, who in any case was keeping Rosberg at bay, ignored the order to finish third ahead of Rosberg in fourth. The call from the pit wall gave fuel to conspiracy theorists, but Mercedes was quick to back down and come to the support of Hamilton. "From my point of view Lewis was right," Mercedes chairman Niki Lauda said. "And why the call came, this happened out of panic and we had to make up for what we were losing." Rosberg, however, saw it differently…
Points: Rosberg 202 - 191 Hamilton
Rivalry rating: 8/10
Crunch time in Spa
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After all that had happened at the previous 10 races, it was perhaps no surprise that Rosberg and Hamilton collided at the Belgium Grand Prix, but what was a surprise was the fallout and post-race accusations that followed. During the team debrief Rosberg said he wanted to prove a point by leaving his car on the inside of Hamilton's, which his team-mate interpreted as causing a collision on purpose. Trust in the Mercedes camp dissipated and crisis talks were held the following weekend at the team's factory. Rosberg was forced to apologise and "suitable disciplinary measures" were taken against him, although the team never revealed the details. Hamilton also admitted to making mistakes over the course of the season, allowing for the relationship to be reset without the need to castigate. In doing so the Mercedes management took the edge off the rivalry between the two, although the threat of much more serious action in the case of a repeat no doubt had a deep impact on both drivers.
Points: Rosberg 220 - 191 Hamilton
Rivalry rating: 10/10
Advantage Hamilton
Over the following five races, Hamilton did his talking on the track and took five consecutive victories. He made a huge leap forward at the Singapore Grand Prix when Rosberg suffered an electronics failure with his steering wheel. The problem was traced back to the contamination of the steering's wiring loom by a substance used during servicing back at base. It gave Hamilton a three-point lead in the championship that he then extended over the next three races. At the Japanese and US Grands Prix he came from behind to pass Rosberg on track, underlining the advantage he had over his team-mate in race conditions. Rosberg hit back with victory in Brazil to limit the gap to 17 points ahead of the final round, although Hamilton could have put up a much stronger fight had he not spun at a crucial point in the race.
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Points after Brazilian GP: Hamilton 334 - 317 Rosberg
Rivalry rating: 7/10
The final round
Although things have cooled off between Hamilton and Rosberg since Spa, an intense rivalry still divides them. Asked how he saw his personal relationship with Hamilton at the last two races, Rosberg simply said "neutral" - a word not usually used to describe a bond with another human being. But these aren't two normal human beings, they're racing drivers locked in a battle for the greatest prize of their professional lives. Both have cracked under pressure and done things they ought not to over the past 18 races, but both have also delivered performances worthy of a champion. The final round has the potential to deliver one last twist of fate or, under the pressure of the moment, tempt one of them into distorting fate. If we are to learn anything from the season so far, it's that anything in this title battle is possible.
Read more at Hamilton v Rosberg: A cold war turned nuclear | Formula 1 | F1 features | ESPN F1
Celsius
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Eu muito sinceramente penso que já está tudo decidido, e o "problema" chama-se Alonso. Só que devido às burocracias dos contractos nada pode ser dito neste momento.
O Vettel segue para a Ferrari e o Alonso parte para a Mclaren, e mesmo a Mclaren já sabe muito bem quem o vai acompanhar para a ano.
Para haver confusão e secretismo nas mudanças de "cadeiras" tinha de estar lá o Alonso! [
] Isso é garantido.